▲ 1154 ▼ take their money and arrest those responsible (feddit.org) submitted 3 months ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 264 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/1097575
[+] Eristalis@reddthat.com 18 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) My point is, the important part isn't assigning blame, it's taking actions that actually have some path to success. You really can't ethically consume your way out of climate change. Identifying the corporations and governments most responsible for blocking progress isn't a mere moral victory, it's focusing our efforts. What's properly amazing is taking a slightly less well-paying job because it's on a bus route, Sure, but not everyone can do that. And I don't mean it's just difficult, but literally there are a finite number of jobs and housing options that will fit that criteria. As our societies are set up now, it is not physically possible for enough people to make a sacrifice like that for it to make a difference. That's why collective action is needed to make those big structural changes in the first place. And if these big companies have the economic system so stitched up that individual choices barely matter, then what on earth makes you think they won't have the political system similarly stitched up so that individual activism doesn't make a difference either? Oh 100%. I'm deeply concerned that there may be no peaceful, democratic way out of this. But that's step 2. Step 1, regardless of what our strategy ought to be, is organizing. Whether we need voters, protestors, boycotters, or an army, we need people who are able to coordinate with others. It's not individual activism, it's collective action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Eristalis@reddthat.com -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago That is exactly what I’m trying to push back against. Guilting people over their tiny contribution to climate change is hurting the cause, not helping it. It’s a problem intrinsic to the consumption-oriented liberal approach to climate activism, but not exclusive to it. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 child) My point is, the important part isn't assigning blame, it's taking actions that actually have some path to success. You really can't ethically consume your way out of climate change. Identifying the corporations and governments most responsible for blocking progress isn't a mere moral victory, it's focusing our efforts. What's properly amazing is taking a slightly less well-paying job because it's on a bus route, Sure, but not everyone can do that. And I don't mean it's just difficult, but literally there are a finite number of jobs and housing options that will fit that criteria. As our societies are set up now, it is not physically possible for enough people to make a sacrifice like that for it to make a difference. That's why collective action is needed to make those big structural changes in the first place. And if these big companies have the economic system so stitched up that individual choices barely matter, then what on earth makes you think they won't have the political system similarly stitched up so that individual activism doesn't make a difference either? Oh 100%. I'm deeply concerned that there may be no peaceful, democratic way out of this. But that's step 2. Step 1, regardless of what our strategy ought to be, is organizing. Whether we need voters, protestors, boycotters, or an army, we need people who are able to coordinate with others. It's not individual activism, it's collective action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Eristalis@reddthat.com -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago That is exactly what I’m trying to push back against. Guilting people over their tiny contribution to climate change is hurting the cause, not helping it. It’s a problem intrinsic to the consumption-oriented liberal approach to climate activism, but not exclusive to it. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Eristalis@reddthat.com -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago That is exactly what I’m trying to push back against. Guilting people over their tiny contribution to climate change is hurting the cause, not helping it. It’s a problem intrinsic to the consumption-oriented liberal approach to climate activism, but not exclusive to it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago That is exactly what I’m trying to push back against. Guilting people over their tiny contribution to climate change is hurting the cause, not helping it. It’s a problem intrinsic to the consumption-oriented liberal approach to climate activism, but not exclusive to it. permalink fedilink source parent