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Should we switch the default privacy community from !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com </c/privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com> to !privacy@programming.dev </c/privacy@programming.dev> ? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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Hello everyone,

I raised the point recently already, but to make it short

I tried to reach out to the active poster, who posted to the lemmy.dbzer0 community in the past before switching back to programming.dev, and I guess they disagree with some of the stances of dbzer0 (probably the pro AI one)

Programming.dev has a few hiccups from time to time, but for a few months it has been stable

What do people think?

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[–] 9 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I don't think moving instances will suddenly fix this, yet I'm still curious on why you want to move? There's no AI content on c/privacy. (Honest question)

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    As I said in the OP, I would rather collaborate with the active poster on !privacy@programming.dev rather than compete on !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    There are only two active posters on dbzer0, @cm0002@lemmy.world and I, so the move would at least consolidate the three active poster on the topic in the same place

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

    I understand. Though I'd rather reach out so her and get a response from her (from what I got from the post, she didn't respond?)

    Honestly I'm not the biggest fan of consolidation, and I'd like to try this solution before the other.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It does seem to be an ideological opposition to db0's AI stance, though it doesn't really make sense to me because, like you said, c/privacy doesn't have anything to do with AI: https://lemmy.nz/comment/15894250

    I can't really see the benefit in bending over backwards to accommodate someone who won't even communicate.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Exactly, I struggle to see why we should destroy the community that already seems healthy enough for a poster who didn't even respond to the DM.

    I'm not even pro AI myself, but I find it silly to consolidate/quit a community over it when there's literally no AI content there anyway (also, pro-AI rules aren't even enforced on the dbzer0 version, I couldn't care less about anti/pro AI sentiment.)

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    The community is only as active as regular posters are.

    If I or @cm0002@lemmy.world switch to the programming.dev community, over time it will become more active than the dbzer0 version

    As I said elsewhere, I'm just tired of not being able to have a single community as an alternative to .ml

    Also, it's not about destroying a community, merely locking it. You can reopen it later if issues happen with the programming.dev one

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    At this point, I would rather follow the single organic active poster on that topic as long as they post on an ok instance (which programming.dev is)

    I'm a bit burnt out of trying to have alternatives to lemmy.ml communities. We've been trying for more than a year by now (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/21760805), and we didn't manage to get any of the alternatives communities to get even on par with the .ml one

    When external projects or contributors post to Lemmy about their project, like Framasoft or Comaps, they do it on .ml communities

    Either we all agree that the .ml communities stay the default ones on those topics, and that our attempt was a failure, or we agree to follow organic posters where they are.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I’m a bit burnt out of trying to have alternatives to lemmy.ml communities.

    I can understand that, it is an uphill battle. !linux@programming.dev at least is doing well.

    It's just annoying from a user perspective to have to keep up with all this intricate instance politics for a single comm. Maybe p.dev is the right choice just because it's so uncontroversial so won't cause issues.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yes, !linux@programming.dev is in a better shape.

    It’s just annoying from a user perspective to have to keep up with all this intricate instance politics for a single comm. Maybe p.dev is the right choice just because it’s so uncontroversial so won’t cause issues.

    Definitely. That's why I'm always advocating for a single community, all posters post there, after a bit mods of the inactive communities suggest to their communities to get locked down and point to the active one.

    And yes, that's my feeling too about p.dev

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Honestly I’m not the biggest fan of consolidation, and I’d like to try this solution before the other.

    So we just let the .ml communities stay the main ones on those topics? https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49181106/20133299

    Also, didn't we consolidate !growthefediverse@slrpnk.net with !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com ?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The difference is that communities themselves on ml have problematic moderation, with the admins (who don't even moderate the community) removing/banning users for silly reasons.

    Also, didn't we consolidate !growthefediverse@slrpnk.net with !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com ?

    Growthefediverse was dead, even the moderator himself admitted it. I don't see the contradiction here tbh

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    From the previous comment (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48474450/19929594)

    Her mentioning "Also quokk.au" under the "Uhhhh lemmy.dbzer0.com is the pro-AI instance." makes it quite clear that it's an issue for her.

    I reached out to her 27 days ago, she never replied to me, I guess that's not going to happen. Meanwhile, !privacy@lemmy.ml is still the default community by far because we can't decide on one alternative community that can work for all active posters

    https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=privacy&order=active_month

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