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[–] neaptide@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Please cite some sources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daannii@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (1 child) Infrasound in Biology and Medicine: Insights into Mechanisms, Health Outcomes and Research Perspectives-A Narrative Review Palak Kapoor, Renu Bala Yadav, Neha Agrawal, Savita Gaur, Rajesh Arora Noise and Health 27 (129), 676-691, 2025 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C14&q=infrasound+cardiovascular+#d=gs_qabs&t=1783484355429&u=%23p%3DIQT0nWogXtoJ Quick Google scholar search. I was under the impression most scientific minded people were aware of this. There are YouTube videos spreading awareness of infrasound. It's a common talking point about the hazards of data centers. And fracking. Which also creates it. It's not even new research. This one from 2017 Infrasound‐induced hemodynamics, ultrastructure, and molecular changes in the rat myocardium Zhaohui Pei, Hanfei Sang, Ruiman Li, Pingxi Xiao, Jiangui He, Zhiqiang Zhuang, Miaozhang Zhu, Jingzao Chen, Hong Ma Environmental Toxicology: An International Journal 22 (2), 169-175, 2007 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C14&q=infrasound+cardiovascular+#d=gs_qabs&t=1783484355429&u=%23p%3DIQT0nWogXtoJ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] neaptide@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago The Kapoor article cited many other studies that actually looked at audible sound and noise pollution. It also cited several articles that conclude that evidence of symptoms directly related to infrasound exposure are mostly case studies and anecdotal evidence and that more research is needed. The authors even state in the article itself, “It is still not unambiguously established that low-level exposure to infrasound always leads to adverse consequences at the organ, tissue, cellular and molecular level.” As for the Zhaohui article, please consider this article that discusses how average infrasound that we are exposed to day to day (even from sources such as regular passenger cars) exceeds the thresholds that are said to induce negative myocardial effects. Can Infrasound from Wind Turbines Affect Myocardial Contractility? A critical Review Just because it’s being talked about on youtube does not mean the research backs it up. Many studies on infrasound are related to wind turbines, which produce a similar level of infrasound to data centers. Consider the following study that found no link between infrasound and negative health effects: The Health Effects of 72 Hours of Simulated Wind Turbine Infrasound: A Double-Blind Randomized Crossover Study in Noise-Sensitive, Healthy Adults And multiple large scale reviews done by governmental organizations across the world: Systematic review of the human health effects of wind farms Understanding the Evidence: Wind Turbine Noise The Potential Health Impact of Wind Turbines Infrasound Does Not Explain Symptoms Related to Wind Turbines Infrasound is generated by both natural sources (ex: severe weather, ocean waves, whales) and man-made sources (ex: data centers, wind turbines, diesel engines). Despite the recent discussion around data centers, infrasound exposure is not new, and has not been shown to cause negative health effects. Fuck data centers and every negative environmental and societal effect they have (including established issues with audible noise pollution). However, health impacts from infrasound are not one of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daannii@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (1 child) Infrasound in Biology and Medicine: Insights into Mechanisms, Health Outcomes and Research Perspectives-A Narrative Review Palak Kapoor, Renu Bala Yadav, Neha Agrawal, Savita Gaur, Rajesh Arora Noise and Health 27 (129), 676-691, 2025 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C14&q=infrasound+cardiovascular+#d=gs_qabs&t=1783484355429&u=%23p%3DIQT0nWogXtoJ Quick Google scholar search. I was under the impression most scientific minded people were aware of this. There are YouTube videos spreading awareness of infrasound. It's a common talking point about the hazards of data centers. And fracking. Which also creates it. It's not even new research. This one from 2017 Infrasound‐induced hemodynamics, ultrastructure, and molecular changes in the rat myocardium Zhaohui Pei, Hanfei Sang, Ruiman Li, Pingxi Xiao, Jiangui He, Zhiqiang Zhuang, Miaozhang Zhu, Jingzao Chen, Hong Ma Environmental Toxicology: An International Journal 22 (2), 169-175, 2007 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C14&q=infrasound+cardiovascular+#d=gs_qabs&t=1783484355429&u=%23p%3DIQT0nWogXtoJ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] neaptide@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago The Kapoor article cited many other studies that actually looked at audible sound and noise pollution. It also cited several articles that conclude that evidence of symptoms directly related to infrasound exposure are mostly case studies and anecdotal evidence and that more research is needed. The authors even state in the article itself, “It is still not unambiguously established that low-level exposure to infrasound always leads to adverse consequences at the organ, tissue, cellular and molecular level.” As for the Zhaohui article, please consider this article that discusses how average infrasound that we are exposed to day to day (even from sources such as regular passenger cars) exceeds the thresholds that are said to induce negative myocardial effects. Can Infrasound from Wind Turbines Affect Myocardial Contractility? A critical Review Just because it’s being talked about on youtube does not mean the research backs it up. Many studies on infrasound are related to wind turbines, which produce a similar level of infrasound to data centers. Consider the following study that found no link between infrasound and negative health effects: The Health Effects of 72 Hours of Simulated Wind Turbine Infrasound: A Double-Blind Randomized Crossover Study in Noise-Sensitive, Healthy Adults And multiple large scale reviews done by governmental organizations across the world: Systematic review of the human health effects of wind farms Understanding the Evidence: Wind Turbine Noise The Potential Health Impact of Wind Turbines Infrasound Does Not Explain Symptoms Related to Wind Turbines Infrasound is generated by both natural sources (ex: severe weather, ocean waves, whales) and man-made sources (ex: data centers, wind turbines, diesel engines). Despite the recent discussion around data centers, infrasound exposure is not new, and has not been shown to cause negative health effects. Fuck data centers and every negative environmental and societal effect they have (including established issues with audible noise pollution). However, health impacts from infrasound are not one of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neaptide@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago The Kapoor article cited many other studies that actually looked at audible sound and noise pollution. It also cited several articles that conclude that evidence of symptoms directly related to infrasound exposure are mostly case studies and anecdotal evidence and that more research is needed. The authors even state in the article itself, “It is still not unambiguously established that low-level exposure to infrasound always leads to adverse consequences at the organ, tissue, cellular and molecular level.” As for the Zhaohui article, please consider this article that discusses how average infrasound that we are exposed to day to day (even from sources such as regular passenger cars) exceeds the thresholds that are said to induce negative myocardial effects. Can Infrasound from Wind Turbines Affect Myocardial Contractility? A critical Review Just because it’s being talked about on youtube does not mean the research backs it up. Many studies on infrasound are related to wind turbines, which produce a similar level of infrasound to data centers. Consider the following study that found no link between infrasound and negative health effects: The Health Effects of 72 Hours of Simulated Wind Turbine Infrasound: A Double-Blind Randomized Crossover Study in Noise-Sensitive, Healthy Adults And multiple large scale reviews done by governmental organizations across the world: Systematic review of the human health effects of wind farms Understanding the Evidence: Wind Turbine Noise The Potential Health Impact of Wind Turbines Infrasound Does Not Explain Symptoms Related to Wind Turbines Infrasound is generated by both natural sources (ex: severe weather, ocean waves, whales) and man-made sources (ex: data centers, wind turbines, diesel engines). Despite the recent discussion around data centers, infrasound exposure is not new, and has not been shown to cause negative health effects. Fuck data centers and every negative environmental and societal effect they have (including established issues with audible noise pollution). However, health impacts from infrasound are not one of them. permalink fedilink source parent
