▲ 662 ▼ The Mullvad founder gave millions to extremist far right party (mastodon.social) submitted 4 months ago by e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de to c/privacy@lemmy.world 338 comments fedilink hide all child comments The IT company Mullvad’s founder Daniel Berntsson is behind a giant donation to the populist Örebro Party, which advocates “comprehensive re-immigration” from Sweden. “It’s sad that it’s needed,” he told Flamman. ~ https://www.flamman.se/techprofil-ger-miljoner-till-orebropartiet/
[+] Maroon@lemmy.world 240 points 4 months ago (71 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 71 child comments replies: [–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 91 points 4 months ago (22 children) also thought mullvad was legit. also want to know if there's any alternative permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] artifex@piefed.social 47 points 4 months ago (1 child) I’ve semi-seriously been thinking about bootstrapping a VPN service just to have one “not an asshole” service (and that’s setting the bar low - I’m definitely an asshole, just not that kind of asshole). But I’m also a US citizen living in the US, so not the best choice for the job either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 months ago If you build it, they will come permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 18 points 4 months ago (9 children) I've been using IVPN. 🚀 2 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) I originally stopped using IVPN because of slow speeds. Has that improved? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago Hey, No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scytale@piefed.zip 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children) Are you able to get through geo-restrictions on streaming services with IVPN? They have fewer servers than Mullvad it seems. Like for Singapore, they have 2, Mullvad has 5. In Japan, they have 1, while Mullvad has 9. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (4 children) Number of servers is less relevant than users per server. Mullvad is a much bigger company so I'd expect them to need more servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 9 points 4 months ago (3 children) It is, when you want to evade geo-restrictions. More servers spread over different IP blocks means there’s more chances the streaming services aren’t aware of some of those IPs yet, so they aren’t blocking them yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) I'll preface this by saying I used to work in the industry. The restriction evading isn't really related to the number of servers. VPN companies for streaming block evasions buy IP addresses that aren't data centre specific. Those ranges are well known and easily blocked. So for example when you browse you'll generally use a "standard" IP but while connected to the same endpoint if you fire up a netflix session it'll route that traffic out the "streaming" IP. This is also partly to try to prevent steaming companies from getting easy access to a list of those IPs It's quite expensive to get IPs that aren't blocked by steaming services so that is a cheaper cost per user for larger companies. Where I was that cost was way more than the cost of any individual server per month (and some of those servers were hefty). That is one way that Mullvad would have an edge but it's minor. For what it's worth I did have a call with the iVPN lads (twice I think) and found them lovely. Never interacted with Mullvad but I will never give them money after reading this. Weirdly I'm in the market for a new subscription and they would have been my go to. Their fiver a month thing is really very smart. Edit: for geo blocks on standard browsing it would generally present to us as a support ticket. We'd raise it with engineering and they'd assign a new outgoing IP with whoever our provider was. We used M247 a lot and they were very responsive when that happened. Usually a few hours and it was sorted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info, I learned something new. So if for example I run my tv through my VPN and I’m watching youtube. When I switch to the netflix app, the VPN service determines that I’m trying to hit a netflix IP, so it routes it out to an outgoing IP specifically for netflix geo-blocking evasion that is separate from what youtube was using? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Yeah that's exactly it. That's how we did it anyway. I guess other providers may have their own secret sauce but I have to assume it's some variation of that. We paid for a pool of, I think, 1000 non-contiguous residential / business IPs and if any of them got blocked we just immediately rotated. Honestly we never had much trouble with it after the initial engineering work was done. I don't think the providers really give a shit beyond best initial effort to make the rights holders happy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kobra@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago* Its been a couple of years but I didn't have much luck with IVPN and mlb.tv but that was really the only one I tried at the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 months ago (7 children) Proton VPN have had one of their chefs praising donald trump, but that's the worst I have heard about them. Swiss based (they have among the most protective privacy laws out there), email servers are deep down in the mountains (I don't know about the VON ones), no logs (for what I remember, maybe short lived ones?), made by the dudes at CERN. So compared to others quite flawless IMO. Only technical problem I have had is the VPN switches port from time to time and you have to rebind the network interface of your favourite torrent if you're running a tight ship. I have found no simple way of detecting when it happens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (6 children) If you're using qbt and gluetun https://gitlab.com/jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (5 children) Interesting! So it pings some entity and they send back your external port? I speed read the code (but I'm on mobile) and that's what it looks like. Any information greatly appreciated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) Gluetun itself already knows the forwarded port via NAT-PMP, this program just gets it from gluetun and assigns it in qbt via the qbt api and if it returns a 200 response it considers it confirmed, here's an example log: waiting for qBittorrent WebUI... qBittorrent WebUI is ready (authenticated). port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 36884 syncing port 36884 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 36884 (confirmed) port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 39293 syncing port 39293 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 39293 (confirmed) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) So gluetun is for docker networks and lets you isolate traffic to/from other docker containers into a VPN, you run it and qbt inside docker containers with gluetun configured to your vpn, then qbt configured to route all its traffic through it. Edit: I didn't have to port forward at all on my network for this to access it locally (I run it on a separate computer), because all the "outside" traffic in qbt is going through the vpn that has a forwarded port seeders/leachers can connect (which is dynamically updated as it changes with the aforementioned qbt port manager) For example (truncated docker compose just the part related to above): services: qbittorrent-vpn: image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest container_name: qbittorrent-vpn depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true restart: unless-stopped network_mode: "service:gluetun" Then gluetun: services: gluetun: image: qmcgaw/gluetun container_name: gluetun restart: unless-stopped networks: - default cap_add: - NET_ADMIN devices: - /dev/net/tun - 8888:8888/tcp # HTTP proxy volumes: - /appdata/gluetun:/gluetun - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun environment: TZ: $TZ VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER: $GLUETUN_VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER VPN_TYPE: $GLUETUN_VPN_TYPE # wireguard / openvpn WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES VPN_PORT_FORWARDING: on VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER: protonvpn # or your provider VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_STATUS_FILE: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port # OPENVPN_USER: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_USERNAME # OPENVPN_PASSWORD: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_PASSWORD healthcheck: test: ["CMD", "/gluetun-entrypoint", "healthcheck"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 1 start_period: 10s gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager: image: jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager:latest network_mode: "service:gluetun" container_name: gluetun-port-manager depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true qbittorrent-vpn: condition: service_started restart: true environment: - QBITTORRENT_USER= - QBITTORRENT_PASS= - QBITTORRENT_PORT=$QBITTORRENTVPN_PORT volumes: - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 4 months ago Fuck me, this is gonna ruin mullvad, I hope. Never saw it coming though, wtf? permalink fedilink source parent [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (6 children) AirVPN? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) Didn't air have a data mining scandal like nord and others? Cryptostorm is legit though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) Not as far as I've heard? Any links? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) AFAIK AirVPN is run by Italian hacktivist enthusiasts and are not part of the mess with NordVPN and other highly advertised. At least I've only heard positive things from nerds as they seem to fly under the radar of the commercial circuit. Like Mullvad did until some years ago when they started running ad campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago Same here, we're left with AirVPN at that point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (20 children) Signal was kickstarted by the CIA, so dissidents in regimes they wanted to topple could communicate securely, but at least that seems genuine. Matrix was an Israeli spy company's invention. Telegram is Russian. Reddit started out as the creation of Aaron Schwartz, but he got demonised and committed suicide. Then it was left to that shit eater spez, who sold his soul to the Epstein crowd making Ghislaine Maxwell a powermod among others, also hosting r/the_donald and bridging Trump's popularity from 4chan into the mainstream. Now he sells everyone's data to Google, while still not paying the manufacturers of that data anything. TrueCrypt got shut down because it was too cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 months ago (7 children) Do you have Signal confused with TOR? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) If that was in the news you’d think I would be able to find an article… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children) That article and sources are bollocks. They received donations in the past, from there the claim is that they are entirely compromised. There's a list of almost a hundred other apps and services, from fdroid to let's encrypt. Are they also compromised? Fear mongering and tinfoil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] phase@lemmy.8th.world 5 points 4 months ago And Veracrypt? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Emerald@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) TrueCrypt got shut down because it was too cool. VeraCrypt exists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago How is it now cool that VeraCrypt exists? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) Aaron Swartz is and always was the guy who coded the core functionality of reddit. He was the man who Tim Burners Lee said would lead the charge for the internet into the 21st century. Instead, the FBI drove him to death. Spez and that other dude had the idea to make reddit, but Aaron built it for them. Then Randall from XKCD made the "Best" sorting algorithm. Then Spez shat all over everything for personal gain. Then you came here to post. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] redsand@infosec.pub 4 points 4 months ago (4 children) Matrix does have fundamental design issues you would expect from cellebrite devs... Simplex, Monero and Whonix are all as cool as veracrypt! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 24 points 4 months ago (3 children) and the SimpleX creator is a far righter, too https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/114630877715286899 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) You'd think with all the trans programmers out there we would have more tech companies built by leftists... But I suppose the leftists are the ones building the platforms for a pittance while the generationally wealthy right-wingers are the ones paying people to do all that work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Doesn't matter as much here. It's open source and has passed two audits. Look at the code. Use different servers if you want. Reimplement the protocol if you can. No really, please somone do it in go or rust. I don't want to learn kotlin 🥲 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 months ago (15 children) Can we stop with the "proton" supports trump. This has been echoing since the tweet. I understand the initial recoil, I had it myself, but proton as an entity very clearly does not support trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Innerworld@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children) https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Really good article, definitely worth reading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 54 points 4 months ago (9 children) By that logic, Mullvad is fine too, because the entity doesn't support the far right. You are just sending your money to the company which pays the people that do... so... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 4 months ago (7 children) I mean I'm okay expanding that logic here as well for consistency. This is all on a spectrum, one of Mullvad's top employees donates millions to far right politician is on the more extreme end of that spectrum than a tweet that failed to read the room. Taking your counterpoint even further, if you found out some low level employees at any company used a portion of their paycheck to support far right politics would you boycott? Obviously not, which should show you that you don't believe this should be a binary decision. To be clear, I feel mullvad crossed the line here, my point was that the proton hate doesn't compare and is overblown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago That was a sponsorship link anyone was able to use. They them immediately denounced the fascist and are changing how sponsorship links work. Vs Literal founder of company donates millions to literal neo-nazis, doubles down on supporting them permalink fedilink source parent [–] ick@infosec.pub 24 points 4 months ago (3 children) I thought it wasn’t an actual sponsorship, just a referral link system anyone could sign up for and promote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're right. But for some reason, Lemmy has a hate boner for Proton permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] webhead@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago People just easily believe whatever sounds close enough because everything is awful. I hate these far right fuck heads but honestly the witch hunts for literally everything are just exhausting. I can't spend my whole life boycotting fucking everything. I just don't have the fucking energy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago Exactly correct.. And their apology sounded genuine and they took ownership. OP talking about strawman in my post, yet uses a prime example in theirs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago They don't have a MAGA CEO. That was reddit doing its thing and has been debunked since. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 9 points 4 months ago* Uh no? Show me where proton donated millions of dollars to fascists. Their CEO made an unbelievably stupid statement, and then walked it back, but they have not materially supported actual Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] incompetent@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago* Proton doesn't support Trump. Their CEO cherished some judge trump put in, and reddit had a field day with it. You seem to be downplaying his support for Trump and the current Republican Party. And if I remember correctly, when the backlash happened, he doubled down on his support. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 91 points 4 months ago (22 children) also thought mullvad was legit. also want to know if there's any alternative permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] artifex@piefed.social 47 points 4 months ago (1 child) I’ve semi-seriously been thinking about bootstrapping a VPN service just to have one “not an asshole” service (and that’s setting the bar low - I’m definitely an asshole, just not that kind of asshole). But I’m also a US citizen living in the US, so not the best choice for the job either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 months ago If you build it, they will come permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 18 points 4 months ago (9 children) I've been using IVPN. 🚀 2 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) I originally stopped using IVPN because of slow speeds. Has that improved? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago Hey, No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scytale@piefed.zip 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children) Are you able to get through geo-restrictions on streaming services with IVPN? They have fewer servers than Mullvad it seems. Like for Singapore, they have 2, Mullvad has 5. In Japan, they have 1, while Mullvad has 9. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (4 children) Number of servers is less relevant than users per server. Mullvad is a much bigger company so I'd expect them to need more servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 9 points 4 months ago (3 children) It is, when you want to evade geo-restrictions. More servers spread over different IP blocks means there’s more chances the streaming services aren’t aware of some of those IPs yet, so they aren’t blocking them yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) I'll preface this by saying I used to work in the industry. The restriction evading isn't really related to the number of servers. VPN companies for streaming block evasions buy IP addresses that aren't data centre specific. Those ranges are well known and easily blocked. So for example when you browse you'll generally use a "standard" IP but while connected to the same endpoint if you fire up a netflix session it'll route that traffic out the "streaming" IP. This is also partly to try to prevent steaming companies from getting easy access to a list of those IPs It's quite expensive to get IPs that aren't blocked by steaming services so that is a cheaper cost per user for larger companies. Where I was that cost was way more than the cost of any individual server per month (and some of those servers were hefty). That is one way that Mullvad would have an edge but it's minor. For what it's worth I did have a call with the iVPN lads (twice I think) and found them lovely. Never interacted with Mullvad but I will never give them money after reading this. Weirdly I'm in the market for a new subscription and they would have been my go to. Their fiver a month thing is really very smart. Edit: for geo blocks on standard browsing it would generally present to us as a support ticket. We'd raise it with engineering and they'd assign a new outgoing IP with whoever our provider was. We used M247 a lot and they were very responsive when that happened. Usually a few hours and it was sorted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info, I learned something new. So if for example I run my tv through my VPN and I’m watching youtube. When I switch to the netflix app, the VPN service determines that I’m trying to hit a netflix IP, so it routes it out to an outgoing IP specifically for netflix geo-blocking evasion that is separate from what youtube was using? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Yeah that's exactly it. That's how we did it anyway. I guess other providers may have their own secret sauce but I have to assume it's some variation of that. We paid for a pool of, I think, 1000 non-contiguous residential / business IPs and if any of them got blocked we just immediately rotated. Honestly we never had much trouble with it after the initial engineering work was done. I don't think the providers really give a shit beyond best initial effort to make the rights holders happy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kobra@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago* Its been a couple of years but I didn't have much luck with IVPN and mlb.tv but that was really the only one I tried at the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 months ago (7 children) Proton VPN have had one of their chefs praising donald trump, but that's the worst I have heard about them. Swiss based (they have among the most protective privacy laws out there), email servers are deep down in the mountains (I don't know about the VON ones), no logs (for what I remember, maybe short lived ones?), made by the dudes at CERN. So compared to others quite flawless IMO. Only technical problem I have had is the VPN switches port from time to time and you have to rebind the network interface of your favourite torrent if you're running a tight ship. I have found no simple way of detecting when it happens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (6 children) If you're using qbt and gluetun https://gitlab.com/jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (5 children) Interesting! So it pings some entity and they send back your external port? I speed read the code (but I'm on mobile) and that's what it looks like. Any information greatly appreciated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) Gluetun itself already knows the forwarded port via NAT-PMP, this program just gets it from gluetun and assigns it in qbt via the qbt api and if it returns a 200 response it considers it confirmed, here's an example log: waiting for qBittorrent WebUI... qBittorrent WebUI is ready (authenticated). port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 36884 syncing port 36884 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 36884 (confirmed) port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 39293 syncing port 39293 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 39293 (confirmed) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) So gluetun is for docker networks and lets you isolate traffic to/from other docker containers into a VPN, you run it and qbt inside docker containers with gluetun configured to your vpn, then qbt configured to route all its traffic through it. Edit: I didn't have to port forward at all on my network for this to access it locally (I run it on a separate computer), because all the "outside" traffic in qbt is going through the vpn that has a forwarded port seeders/leachers can connect (which is dynamically updated as it changes with the aforementioned qbt port manager) For example (truncated docker compose just the part related to above): services: qbittorrent-vpn: image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest container_name: qbittorrent-vpn depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true restart: unless-stopped network_mode: "service:gluetun" Then gluetun: services: gluetun: image: qmcgaw/gluetun container_name: gluetun restart: unless-stopped networks: - default cap_add: - NET_ADMIN devices: - /dev/net/tun - 8888:8888/tcp # HTTP proxy volumes: - /appdata/gluetun:/gluetun - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun environment: TZ: $TZ VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER: $GLUETUN_VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER VPN_TYPE: $GLUETUN_VPN_TYPE # wireguard / openvpn WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES VPN_PORT_FORWARDING: on VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER: protonvpn # or your provider VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_STATUS_FILE: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port # OPENVPN_USER: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_USERNAME # OPENVPN_PASSWORD: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_PASSWORD healthcheck: test: ["CMD", "/gluetun-entrypoint", "healthcheck"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 1 start_period: 10s gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager: image: jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager:latest network_mode: "service:gluetun" container_name: gluetun-port-manager depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true qbittorrent-vpn: condition: service_started restart: true environment: - QBITTORRENT_USER= - QBITTORRENT_PASS= - QBITTORRENT_PORT=$QBITTORRENTVPN_PORT volumes: - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] artifex@piefed.social 47 points 4 months ago (1 child) I’ve semi-seriously been thinking about bootstrapping a VPN service just to have one “not an asshole” service (and that’s setting the bar low - I’m definitely an asshole, just not that kind of asshole). But I’m also a US citizen living in the US, so not the best choice for the job either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 months ago If you build it, they will come permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 18 points 4 months ago (9 children) I've been using IVPN. 🚀 2 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) I originally stopped using IVPN because of slow speeds. Has that improved? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago Hey, No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scytale@piefed.zip 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children) Are you able to get through geo-restrictions on streaming services with IVPN? They have fewer servers than Mullvad it seems. Like for Singapore, they have 2, Mullvad has 5. In Japan, they have 1, while Mullvad has 9. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (4 children) Number of servers is less relevant than users per server. Mullvad is a much bigger company so I'd expect them to need more servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 9 points 4 months ago (3 children) It is, when you want to evade geo-restrictions. More servers spread over different IP blocks means there’s more chances the streaming services aren’t aware of some of those IPs yet, so they aren’t blocking them yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) I'll preface this by saying I used to work in the industry. The restriction evading isn't really related to the number of servers. VPN companies for streaming block evasions buy IP addresses that aren't data centre specific. Those ranges are well known and easily blocked. So for example when you browse you'll generally use a "standard" IP but while connected to the same endpoint if you fire up a netflix session it'll route that traffic out the "streaming" IP. This is also partly to try to prevent steaming companies from getting easy access to a list of those IPs It's quite expensive to get IPs that aren't blocked by steaming services so that is a cheaper cost per user for larger companies. Where I was that cost was way more than the cost of any individual server per month (and some of those servers were hefty). That is one way that Mullvad would have an edge but it's minor. For what it's worth I did have a call with the iVPN lads (twice I think) and found them lovely. Never interacted with Mullvad but I will never give them money after reading this. Weirdly I'm in the market for a new subscription and they would have been my go to. Their fiver a month thing is really very smart. Edit: for geo blocks on standard browsing it would generally present to us as a support ticket. We'd raise it with engineering and they'd assign a new outgoing IP with whoever our provider was. We used M247 a lot and they were very responsive when that happened. Usually a few hours and it was sorted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info, I learned something new. So if for example I run my tv through my VPN and I’m watching youtube. When I switch to the netflix app, the VPN service determines that I’m trying to hit a netflix IP, so it routes it out to an outgoing IP specifically for netflix geo-blocking evasion that is separate from what youtube was using? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Yeah that's exactly it. That's how we did it anyway. I guess other providers may have their own secret sauce but I have to assume it's some variation of that. We paid for a pool of, I think, 1000 non-contiguous residential / business IPs and if any of them got blocked we just immediately rotated. Honestly we never had much trouble with it after the initial engineering work was done. I don't think the providers really give a shit beyond best initial effort to make the rights holders happy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kobra@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago* Its been a couple of years but I didn't have much luck with IVPN and mlb.tv but that was really the only one I tried at the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) I originally stopped using IVPN because of slow speeds. Has that improved? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago Hey, No. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scytale@piefed.zip 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children) Are you able to get through geo-restrictions on streaming services with IVPN? They have fewer servers than Mullvad it seems. Like for Singapore, they have 2, Mullvad has 5. In Japan, they have 1, while Mullvad has 9. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (4 children) Number of servers is less relevant than users per server. Mullvad is a much bigger company so I'd expect them to need more servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 9 points 4 months ago (3 children) It is, when you want to evade geo-restrictions. More servers spread over different IP blocks means there’s more chances the streaming services aren’t aware of some of those IPs yet, so they aren’t blocking them yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) I'll preface this by saying I used to work in the industry. The restriction evading isn't really related to the number of servers. VPN companies for streaming block evasions buy IP addresses that aren't data centre specific. Those ranges are well known and easily blocked. So for example when you browse you'll generally use a "standard" IP but while connected to the same endpoint if you fire up a netflix session it'll route that traffic out the "streaming" IP. This is also partly to try to prevent steaming companies from getting easy access to a list of those IPs It's quite expensive to get IPs that aren't blocked by steaming services so that is a cheaper cost per user for larger companies. Where I was that cost was way more than the cost of any individual server per month (and some of those servers were hefty). That is one way that Mullvad would have an edge but it's minor. For what it's worth I did have a call with the iVPN lads (twice I think) and found them lovely. Never interacted with Mullvad but I will never give them money after reading this. Weirdly I'm in the market for a new subscription and they would have been my go to. Their fiver a month thing is really very smart. Edit: for geo blocks on standard browsing it would generally present to us as a support ticket. We'd raise it with engineering and they'd assign a new outgoing IP with whoever our provider was. We used M247 a lot and they were very responsive when that happened. Usually a few hours and it was sorted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info, I learned something new. So if for example I run my tv through my VPN and I’m watching youtube. When I switch to the netflix app, the VPN service determines that I’m trying to hit a netflix IP, so it routes it out to an outgoing IP specifically for netflix geo-blocking evasion that is separate from what youtube was using? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Yeah that's exactly it. That's how we did it anyway. I guess other providers may have their own secret sauce but I have to assume it's some variation of that. We paid for a pool of, I think, 1000 non-contiguous residential / business IPs and if any of them got blocked we just immediately rotated. Honestly we never had much trouble with it after the initial engineering work was done. I don't think the providers really give a shit beyond best initial effort to make the rights holders happy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kobra@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago* Its been a couple of years but I didn't have much luck with IVPN and mlb.tv but that was really the only one I tried at the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (4 children) Number of servers is less relevant than users per server. Mullvad is a much bigger company so I'd expect them to need more servers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 9 points 4 months ago (3 children) It is, when you want to evade geo-restrictions. More servers spread over different IP blocks means there’s more chances the streaming services aren’t aware of some of those IPs yet, so they aren’t blocking them yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) I'll preface this by saying I used to work in the industry. The restriction evading isn't really related to the number of servers. VPN companies for streaming block evasions buy IP addresses that aren't data centre specific. Those ranges are well known and easily blocked. So for example when you browse you'll generally use a "standard" IP but while connected to the same endpoint if you fire up a netflix session it'll route that traffic out the "streaming" IP. This is also partly to try to prevent steaming companies from getting easy access to a list of those IPs It's quite expensive to get IPs that aren't blocked by steaming services so that is a cheaper cost per user for larger companies. Where I was that cost was way more than the cost of any individual server per month (and some of those servers were hefty). That is one way that Mullvad would have an edge but it's minor. For what it's worth I did have a call with the iVPN lads (twice I think) and found them lovely. Never interacted with Mullvad but I will never give them money after reading this. Weirdly I'm in the market for a new subscription and they would have been my go to. Their fiver a month thing is really very smart. Edit: for geo blocks on standard browsing it would generally present to us as a support ticket. We'd raise it with engineering and they'd assign a new outgoing IP with whoever our provider was. We used M247 a lot and they were very responsive when that happened. Usually a few hours and it was sorted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info, I learned something new. So if for example I run my tv through my VPN and I’m watching youtube. When I switch to the netflix app, the VPN service determines that I’m trying to hit a netflix IP, so it routes it out to an outgoing IP specifically for netflix geo-blocking evasion that is separate from what youtube was using? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Yeah that's exactly it. That's how we did it anyway. I guess other providers may have their own secret sauce but I have to assume it's some variation of that. We paid for a pool of, I think, 1000 non-contiguous residential / business IPs and if any of them got blocked we just immediately rotated. Honestly we never had much trouble with it after the initial engineering work was done. I don't think the providers really give a shit beyond best initial effort to make the rights holders happy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scytale@piefed.zip 9 points 4 months ago (3 children) It is, when you want to evade geo-restrictions. More servers spread over different IP blocks means there’s more chances the streaming services aren’t aware of some of those IPs yet, so they aren’t blocking them yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) I'll preface this by saying I used to work in the industry. The restriction evading isn't really related to the number of servers. VPN companies for streaming block evasions buy IP addresses that aren't data centre specific. Those ranges are well known and easily blocked. So for example when you browse you'll generally use a "standard" IP but while connected to the same endpoint if you fire up a netflix session it'll route that traffic out the "streaming" IP. This is also partly to try to prevent steaming companies from getting easy access to a list of those IPs It's quite expensive to get IPs that aren't blocked by steaming services so that is a cheaper cost per user for larger companies. Where I was that cost was way more than the cost of any individual server per month (and some of those servers were hefty). That is one way that Mullvad would have an edge but it's minor. For what it's worth I did have a call with the iVPN lads (twice I think) and found them lovely. Never interacted with Mullvad but I will never give them money after reading this. Weirdly I'm in the market for a new subscription and they would have been my go to. Their fiver a month thing is really very smart. Edit: for geo blocks on standard browsing it would generally present to us as a support ticket. We'd raise it with engineering and they'd assign a new outgoing IP with whoever our provider was. We used M247 a lot and they were very responsive when that happened. Usually a few hours and it was sorted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info, I learned something new. So if for example I run my tv through my VPN and I’m watching youtube. When I switch to the netflix app, the VPN service determines that I’m trying to hit a netflix IP, so it routes it out to an outgoing IP specifically for netflix geo-blocking evasion that is separate from what youtube was using? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Yeah that's exactly it. That's how we did it anyway. I guess other providers may have their own secret sauce but I have to assume it's some variation of that. We paid for a pool of, I think, 1000 non-contiguous residential / business IPs and if any of them got blocked we just immediately rotated. Honestly we never had much trouble with it after the initial engineering work was done. I don't think the providers really give a shit beyond best initial effort to make the rights holders happy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) I'll preface this by saying I used to work in the industry. The restriction evading isn't really related to the number of servers. VPN companies for streaming block evasions buy IP addresses that aren't data centre specific. Those ranges are well known and easily blocked. So for example when you browse you'll generally use a "standard" IP but while connected to the same endpoint if you fire up a netflix session it'll route that traffic out the "streaming" IP. This is also partly to try to prevent steaming companies from getting easy access to a list of those IPs It's quite expensive to get IPs that aren't blocked by steaming services so that is a cheaper cost per user for larger companies. Where I was that cost was way more than the cost of any individual server per month (and some of those servers were hefty). That is one way that Mullvad would have an edge but it's minor. For what it's worth I did have a call with the iVPN lads (twice I think) and found them lovely. Never interacted with Mullvad but I will never give them money after reading this. Weirdly I'm in the market for a new subscription and they would have been my go to. Their fiver a month thing is really very smart. Edit: for geo blocks on standard browsing it would generally present to us as a support ticket. We'd raise it with engineering and they'd assign a new outgoing IP with whoever our provider was. We used M247 a lot and they were very responsive when that happened. Usually a few hours and it was sorted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info, I learned something new. So if for example I run my tv through my VPN and I’m watching youtube. When I switch to the netflix app, the VPN service determines that I’m trying to hit a netflix IP, so it routes it out to an outgoing IP specifically for netflix geo-blocking evasion that is separate from what youtube was using? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Yeah that's exactly it. That's how we did it anyway. I guess other providers may have their own secret sauce but I have to assume it's some variation of that. We paid for a pool of, I think, 1000 non-contiguous residential / business IPs and if any of them got blocked we just immediately rotated. Honestly we never had much trouble with it after the initial engineering work was done. I don't think the providers really give a shit beyond best initial effort to make the rights holders happy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info, I learned something new. So if for example I run my tv through my VPN and I’m watching youtube. When I switch to the netflix app, the VPN service determines that I’m trying to hit a netflix IP, so it routes it out to an outgoing IP specifically for netflix geo-blocking evasion that is separate from what youtube was using? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Yeah that's exactly it. That's how we did it anyway. I guess other providers may have their own secret sauce but I have to assume it's some variation of that. We paid for a pool of, I think, 1000 non-contiguous residential / business IPs and if any of them got blocked we just immediately rotated. Honestly we never had much trouble with it after the initial engineering work was done. I don't think the providers really give a shit beyond best initial effort to make the rights holders happy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Yeah that's exactly it. That's how we did it anyway. I guess other providers may have their own secret sauce but I have to assume it's some variation of that. We paid for a pool of, I think, 1000 non-contiguous residential / business IPs and if any of them got blocked we just immediately rotated. Honestly we never had much trouble with it after the initial engineering work was done. I don't think the providers really give a shit beyond best initial effort to make the rights holders happy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kobra@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago* Its been a couple of years but I didn't have much luck with IVPN and mlb.tv but that was really the only one I tried at the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 months ago (7 children) Proton VPN have had one of their chefs praising donald trump, but that's the worst I have heard about them. Swiss based (they have among the most protective privacy laws out there), email servers are deep down in the mountains (I don't know about the VON ones), no logs (for what I remember, maybe short lived ones?), made by the dudes at CERN. So compared to others quite flawless IMO. Only technical problem I have had is the VPN switches port from time to time and you have to rebind the network interface of your favourite torrent if you're running a tight ship. I have found no simple way of detecting when it happens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (6 children) If you're using qbt and gluetun https://gitlab.com/jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (5 children) Interesting! So it pings some entity and they send back your external port? I speed read the code (but I'm on mobile) and that's what it looks like. Any information greatly appreciated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) Gluetun itself already knows the forwarded port via NAT-PMP, this program just gets it from gluetun and assigns it in qbt via the qbt api and if it returns a 200 response it considers it confirmed, here's an example log: waiting for qBittorrent WebUI... qBittorrent WebUI is ready (authenticated). port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 36884 syncing port 36884 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 36884 (confirmed) port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 39293 syncing port 39293 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 39293 (confirmed) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) So gluetun is for docker networks and lets you isolate traffic to/from other docker containers into a VPN, you run it and qbt inside docker containers with gluetun configured to your vpn, then qbt configured to route all its traffic through it. Edit: I didn't have to port forward at all on my network for this to access it locally (I run it on a separate computer), because all the "outside" traffic in qbt is going through the vpn that has a forwarded port seeders/leachers can connect (which is dynamically updated as it changes with the aforementioned qbt port manager) For example (truncated docker compose just the part related to above): services: qbittorrent-vpn: image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest container_name: qbittorrent-vpn depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true restart: unless-stopped network_mode: "service:gluetun" Then gluetun: services: gluetun: image: qmcgaw/gluetun container_name: gluetun restart: unless-stopped networks: - default cap_add: - NET_ADMIN devices: - /dev/net/tun - 8888:8888/tcp # HTTP proxy volumes: - /appdata/gluetun:/gluetun - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun environment: TZ: $TZ VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER: $GLUETUN_VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER VPN_TYPE: $GLUETUN_VPN_TYPE # wireguard / openvpn WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES VPN_PORT_FORWARDING: on VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER: protonvpn # or your provider VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_STATUS_FILE: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port # OPENVPN_USER: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_USERNAME # OPENVPN_PASSWORD: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_PASSWORD healthcheck: test: ["CMD", "/gluetun-entrypoint", "healthcheck"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 1 start_period: 10s gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager: image: jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager:latest network_mode: "service:gluetun" container_name: gluetun-port-manager depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true qbittorrent-vpn: condition: service_started restart: true environment: - QBITTORRENT_USER= - QBITTORRENT_PASS= - QBITTORRENT_PORT=$QBITTORRENTVPN_PORT volumes: - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (6 children) If you're using qbt and gluetun https://gitlab.com/jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (5 children) Interesting! So it pings some entity and they send back your external port? I speed read the code (but I'm on mobile) and that's what it looks like. Any information greatly appreciated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) Gluetun itself already knows the forwarded port via NAT-PMP, this program just gets it from gluetun and assigns it in qbt via the qbt api and if it returns a 200 response it considers it confirmed, here's an example log: waiting for qBittorrent WebUI... qBittorrent WebUI is ready (authenticated). port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 36884 syncing port 36884 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 36884 (confirmed) port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 39293 syncing port 39293 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 39293 (confirmed) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) So gluetun is for docker networks and lets you isolate traffic to/from other docker containers into a VPN, you run it and qbt inside docker containers with gluetun configured to your vpn, then qbt configured to route all its traffic through it. Edit: I didn't have to port forward at all on my network for this to access it locally (I run it on a separate computer), because all the "outside" traffic in qbt is going through the vpn that has a forwarded port seeders/leachers can connect (which is dynamically updated as it changes with the aforementioned qbt port manager) For example (truncated docker compose just the part related to above): services: qbittorrent-vpn: image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest container_name: qbittorrent-vpn depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true restart: unless-stopped network_mode: "service:gluetun" Then gluetun: services: gluetun: image: qmcgaw/gluetun container_name: gluetun restart: unless-stopped networks: - default cap_add: - NET_ADMIN devices: - /dev/net/tun - 8888:8888/tcp # HTTP proxy volumes: - /appdata/gluetun:/gluetun - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun environment: TZ: $TZ VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER: $GLUETUN_VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER VPN_TYPE: $GLUETUN_VPN_TYPE # wireguard / openvpn WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES VPN_PORT_FORWARDING: on VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER: protonvpn # or your provider VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_STATUS_FILE: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port # OPENVPN_USER: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_USERNAME # OPENVPN_PASSWORD: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_PASSWORD healthcheck: test: ["CMD", "/gluetun-entrypoint", "healthcheck"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 1 start_period: 10s gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager: image: jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager:latest network_mode: "service:gluetun" container_name: gluetun-port-manager depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true qbittorrent-vpn: condition: service_started restart: true environment: - QBITTORRENT_USER= - QBITTORRENT_PASS= - QBITTORRENT_PORT=$QBITTORRENTVPN_PORT volumes: - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (5 children) Interesting! So it pings some entity and they send back your external port? I speed read the code (but I'm on mobile) and that's what it looks like. Any information greatly appreciated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) Gluetun itself already knows the forwarded port via NAT-PMP, this program just gets it from gluetun and assigns it in qbt via the qbt api and if it returns a 200 response it considers it confirmed, here's an example log: waiting for qBittorrent WebUI... qBittorrent WebUI is ready (authenticated). port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 36884 syncing port 36884 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 36884 (confirmed) port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 39293 syncing port 39293 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 39293 (confirmed) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) So gluetun is for docker networks and lets you isolate traffic to/from other docker containers into a VPN, you run it and qbt inside docker containers with gluetun configured to your vpn, then qbt configured to route all its traffic through it. Edit: I didn't have to port forward at all on my network for this to access it locally (I run it on a separate computer), because all the "outside" traffic in qbt is going through the vpn that has a forwarded port seeders/leachers can connect (which is dynamically updated as it changes with the aforementioned qbt port manager) For example (truncated docker compose just the part related to above): services: qbittorrent-vpn: image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest container_name: qbittorrent-vpn depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true restart: unless-stopped network_mode: "service:gluetun" Then gluetun: services: gluetun: image: qmcgaw/gluetun container_name: gluetun restart: unless-stopped networks: - default cap_add: - NET_ADMIN devices: - /dev/net/tun - 8888:8888/tcp # HTTP proxy volumes: - /appdata/gluetun:/gluetun - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun environment: TZ: $TZ VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER: $GLUETUN_VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER VPN_TYPE: $GLUETUN_VPN_TYPE # wireguard / openvpn WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES VPN_PORT_FORWARDING: on VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER: protonvpn # or your provider VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_STATUS_FILE: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port # OPENVPN_USER: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_USERNAME # OPENVPN_PASSWORD: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_PASSWORD healthcheck: test: ["CMD", "/gluetun-entrypoint", "healthcheck"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 1 start_period: 10s gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager: image: jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager:latest network_mode: "service:gluetun" container_name: gluetun-port-manager depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true qbittorrent-vpn: condition: service_started restart: true environment: - QBITTORRENT_USER= - QBITTORRENT_PASS= - QBITTORRENT_PORT=$QBITTORRENTVPN_PORT volumes: - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) Gluetun itself already knows the forwarded port via NAT-PMP, this program just gets it from gluetun and assigns it in qbt via the qbt api and if it returns a 200 response it considers it confirmed, here's an example log: waiting for qBittorrent WebUI... qBittorrent WebUI is ready (authenticated). port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 36884 syncing port 36884 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 36884 (confirmed) port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port port file did not contain an integer: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port gluetun provided forwarded port: 39293 syncing port 39293 to qBittorrent... successfully updated qBittorrent to port 39293 (confirmed) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) So gluetun is for docker networks and lets you isolate traffic to/from other docker containers into a VPN, you run it and qbt inside docker containers with gluetun configured to your vpn, then qbt configured to route all its traffic through it. Edit: I didn't have to port forward at all on my network for this to access it locally (I run it on a separate computer), because all the "outside" traffic in qbt is going through the vpn that has a forwarded port seeders/leachers can connect (which is dynamically updated as it changes with the aforementioned qbt port manager) For example (truncated docker compose just the part related to above): services: qbittorrent-vpn: image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest container_name: qbittorrent-vpn depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true restart: unless-stopped network_mode: "service:gluetun" Then gluetun: services: gluetun: image: qmcgaw/gluetun container_name: gluetun restart: unless-stopped networks: - default cap_add: - NET_ADMIN devices: - /dev/net/tun - 8888:8888/tcp # HTTP proxy volumes: - /appdata/gluetun:/gluetun - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun environment: TZ: $TZ VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER: $GLUETUN_VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER VPN_TYPE: $GLUETUN_VPN_TYPE # wireguard / openvpn WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES VPN_PORT_FORWARDING: on VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER: protonvpn # or your provider VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_STATUS_FILE: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port # OPENVPN_USER: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_USERNAME # OPENVPN_PASSWORD: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_PASSWORD healthcheck: test: ["CMD", "/gluetun-entrypoint", "healthcheck"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 1 start_period: 10s gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager: image: jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager:latest network_mode: "service:gluetun" container_name: gluetun-port-manager depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true qbittorrent-vpn: condition: service_started restart: true environment: - QBITTORRENT_USER= - QBITTORRENT_PASS= - QBITTORRENT_PORT=$QBITTORRENTVPN_PORT volumes: - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) So gluetun is for docker networks and lets you isolate traffic to/from other docker containers into a VPN, you run it and qbt inside docker containers with gluetun configured to your vpn, then qbt configured to route all its traffic through it. Edit: I didn't have to port forward at all on my network for this to access it locally (I run it on a separate computer), because all the "outside" traffic in qbt is going through the vpn that has a forwarded port seeders/leachers can connect (which is dynamically updated as it changes with the aforementioned qbt port manager) For example (truncated docker compose just the part related to above): services: qbittorrent-vpn: image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest container_name: qbittorrent-vpn depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true restart: unless-stopped network_mode: "service:gluetun" Then gluetun: services: gluetun: image: qmcgaw/gluetun container_name: gluetun restart: unless-stopped networks: - default cap_add: - NET_ADMIN devices: - /dev/net/tun - 8888:8888/tcp # HTTP proxy volumes: - /appdata/gluetun:/gluetun - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun environment: TZ: $TZ VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER: $GLUETUN_VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER VPN_TYPE: $GLUETUN_VPN_TYPE # wireguard / openvpn WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES VPN_PORT_FORWARDING: on VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER: protonvpn # or your provider VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_STATUS_FILE: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port # OPENVPN_USER: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_USERNAME # OPENVPN_PASSWORD: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_PASSWORD healthcheck: test: ["CMD", "/gluetun-entrypoint", "healthcheck"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 1 start_period: 10s gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager: image: jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager:latest network_mode: "service:gluetun" container_name: gluetun-port-manager depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true qbittorrent-vpn: condition: service_started restart: true environment: - QBITTORRENT_USER= - QBITTORRENT_PASS= - QBITTORRENT_PORT=$QBITTORRENTVPN_PORT volumes: - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) So gluetun is for docker networks and lets you isolate traffic to/from other docker containers into a VPN, you run it and qbt inside docker containers with gluetun configured to your vpn, then qbt configured to route all its traffic through it. Edit: I didn't have to port forward at all on my network for this to access it locally (I run it on a separate computer), because all the "outside" traffic in qbt is going through the vpn that has a forwarded port seeders/leachers can connect (which is dynamically updated as it changes with the aforementioned qbt port manager) For example (truncated docker compose just the part related to above): services: qbittorrent-vpn: image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest container_name: qbittorrent-vpn depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true restart: unless-stopped network_mode: "service:gluetun" Then gluetun: services: gluetun: image: qmcgaw/gluetun container_name: gluetun restart: unless-stopped networks: - default cap_add: - NET_ADMIN devices: - /dev/net/tun - 8888:8888/tcp # HTTP proxy volumes: - /appdata/gluetun:/gluetun - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun environment: TZ: $TZ VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER: $GLUETUN_VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER VPN_TYPE: $GLUETUN_VPN_TYPE # wireguard / openvpn WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES: $GLUETUN_WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES VPN_PORT_FORWARDING: on VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER: protonvpn # or your provider VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_STATUS_FILE: /tmp/gluetun/forwarded_port # OPENVPN_USER: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_USERNAME # OPENVPN_PASSWORD: $GLUETUN_OPENVPN_PASSWORD healthcheck: test: ["CMD", "/gluetun-entrypoint", "healthcheck"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 1 start_period: 10s gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager: image: jopiermeier/gluetun-qbittorrent-port-manager:latest network_mode: "service:gluetun" container_name: gluetun-port-manager depends_on: gluetun: condition: service_started restart: true qbittorrent-vpn: condition: service_started restart: true environment: - QBITTORRENT_USER= - QBITTORRENT_PASS= - QBITTORRENT_PORT=$QBITTORRENTVPN_PORT volumes: - /appdata/gluetun/tmp:/tmp/gluetun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 4 months ago Fuck me, this is gonna ruin mullvad, I hope. Never saw it coming though, wtf? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (6 children) AirVPN? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) Didn't air have a data mining scandal like nord and others? Cryptostorm is legit though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) Not as far as I've heard? Any links? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) AFAIK AirVPN is run by Italian hacktivist enthusiasts and are not part of the mess with NordVPN and other highly advertised. At least I've only heard positive things from nerds as they seem to fly under the radar of the commercial circuit. Like Mullvad did until some years ago when they started running ad campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] redsand@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) Didn't air have a data mining scandal like nord and others? Cryptostorm is legit though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) Not as far as I've heard? Any links? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) AFAIK AirVPN is run by Italian hacktivist enthusiasts and are not part of the mess with NordVPN and other highly advertised. At least I've only heard positive things from nerds as they seem to fly under the radar of the commercial circuit. Like Mullvad did until some years ago when they started running ad campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) Not as far as I've heard? Any links? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) AFAIK AirVPN is run by Italian hacktivist enthusiasts and are not part of the mess with NordVPN and other highly advertised. At least I've only heard positive things from nerds as they seem to fly under the radar of the commercial circuit. Like Mullvad did until some years ago when they started running ad campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) AFAIK AirVPN is run by Italian hacktivist enthusiasts and are not part of the mess with NordVPN and other highly advertised. At least I've only heard positive things from nerds as they seem to fly under the radar of the commercial circuit. Like Mullvad did until some years ago when they started running ad campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) AFAIK AirVPN is run by Italian hacktivist enthusiasts and are not part of the mess with NordVPN and other highly advertised. At least I've only heard positive things from nerds as they seem to fly under the radar of the commercial circuit. Like Mullvad did until some years ago when they started running ad campaigns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago Same here, we're left with AirVPN at that point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (20 children) Signal was kickstarted by the CIA, so dissidents in regimes they wanted to topple could communicate securely, but at least that seems genuine. Matrix was an Israeli spy company's invention. Telegram is Russian. Reddit started out as the creation of Aaron Schwartz, but he got demonised and committed suicide. Then it was left to that shit eater spez, who sold his soul to the Epstein crowd making Ghislaine Maxwell a powermod among others, also hosting r/the_donald and bridging Trump's popularity from 4chan into the mainstream. Now he sells everyone's data to Google, while still not paying the manufacturers of that data anything. TrueCrypt got shut down because it was too cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 months ago (7 children) Do you have Signal confused with TOR? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) If that was in the news you’d think I would be able to find an article… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children) That article and sources are bollocks. They received donations in the past, from there the claim is that they are entirely compromised. There's a list of almost a hundred other apps and services, from fdroid to let's encrypt. Are they also compromised? Fear mongering and tinfoil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] phase@lemmy.8th.world 5 points 4 months ago And Veracrypt? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Emerald@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) TrueCrypt got shut down because it was too cool. VeraCrypt exists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago How is it now cool that VeraCrypt exists? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) Aaron Swartz is and always was the guy who coded the core functionality of reddit. He was the man who Tim Burners Lee said would lead the charge for the internet into the 21st century. Instead, the FBI drove him to death. Spez and that other dude had the idea to make reddit, but Aaron built it for them. Then Randall from XKCD made the "Best" sorting algorithm. Then Spez shat all over everything for personal gain. Then you came here to post. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] redsand@infosec.pub 4 points 4 months ago (4 children) Matrix does have fundamental design issues you would expect from cellebrite devs... Simplex, Monero and Whonix are all as cool as veracrypt! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 24 points 4 months ago (3 children) and the SimpleX creator is a far righter, too https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/114630877715286899 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) You'd think with all the trans programmers out there we would have more tech companies built by leftists... But I suppose the leftists are the ones building the platforms for a pittance while the generationally wealthy right-wingers are the ones paying people to do all that work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Doesn't matter as much here. It's open source and has passed two audits. Look at the code. Use different servers if you want. Reimplement the protocol if you can. No really, please somone do it in go or rust. I don't want to learn kotlin 🥲 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 months ago (7 children) Do you have Signal confused with TOR? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) If that was in the news you’d think I would be able to find an article… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children) That article and sources are bollocks. They received donations in the past, from there the claim is that they are entirely compromised. There's a list of almost a hundred other apps and services, from fdroid to let's encrypt. Are they also compromised? Fear mongering and tinfoil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) If that was in the news you’d think I would be able to find an article… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children) That article and sources are bollocks. They received donations in the past, from there the claim is that they are entirely compromised. There's a list of almost a hundred other apps and services, from fdroid to let's encrypt. Are they also compromised? Fear mongering and tinfoil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) If that was in the news you’d think I would be able to find an article… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children) That article and sources are bollocks. They received donations in the past, from there the claim is that they are entirely compromised. There's a list of almost a hundred other apps and services, from fdroid to let's encrypt. Are they also compromised? Fear mongering and tinfoil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children) That article and sources are bollocks. They received donations in the past, from there the claim is that they are entirely compromised. There's a list of almost a hundred other apps and services, from fdroid to let's encrypt. Are they also compromised? Fear mongering and tinfoil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children) That article and sources are bollocks. They received donations in the past, from there the claim is that they are entirely compromised. There's a list of almost a hundred other apps and services, from fdroid to let's encrypt. Are they also compromised? Fear mongering and tinfoil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) TrueCrypt got shut down because it was too cool. VeraCrypt exists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago How is it now cool that VeraCrypt exists? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago How is it now cool that VeraCrypt exists? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago How is it now cool that VeraCrypt exists? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) Aaron Swartz is and always was the guy who coded the core functionality of reddit. He was the man who Tim Burners Lee said would lead the charge for the internet into the 21st century. Instead, the FBI drove him to death. Spez and that other dude had the idea to make reddit, but Aaron built it for them. Then Randall from XKCD made the "Best" sorting algorithm. Then Spez shat all over everything for personal gain. Then you came here to post. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) Aaron Swartz is and always was the guy who coded the core functionality of reddit. He was the man who Tim Burners Lee said would lead the charge for the internet into the 21st century. Instead, the FBI drove him to death. Spez and that other dude had the idea to make reddit, but Aaron built it for them. Then Randall from XKCD made the "Best" sorting algorithm. Then Spez shat all over everything for personal gain. Then you came here to post. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] redsand@infosec.pub 4 points 4 months ago (4 children) Matrix does have fundamental design issues you would expect from cellebrite devs... Simplex, Monero and Whonix are all as cool as veracrypt! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 24 points 4 months ago (3 children) and the SimpleX creator is a far righter, too https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/114630877715286899 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) You'd think with all the trans programmers out there we would have more tech companies built by leftists... But I suppose the leftists are the ones building the platforms for a pittance while the generationally wealthy right-wingers are the ones paying people to do all that work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Doesn't matter as much here. It's open source and has passed two audits. Look at the code. Use different servers if you want. Reimplement the protocol if you can. No really, please somone do it in go or rust. I don't want to learn kotlin 🥲 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 24 points 4 months ago (3 children) and the SimpleX creator is a far righter, too https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/114630877715286899 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) You'd think with all the trans programmers out there we would have more tech companies built by leftists... But I suppose the leftists are the ones building the platforms for a pittance while the generationally wealthy right-wingers are the ones paying people to do all that work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Doesn't matter as much here. It's open source and has passed two audits. Look at the code. Use different servers if you want. Reimplement the protocol if you can. No really, please somone do it in go or rust. I don't want to learn kotlin 🥲 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) You'd think with all the trans programmers out there we would have more tech companies built by leftists... But I suppose the leftists are the ones building the platforms for a pittance while the generationally wealthy right-wingers are the ones paying people to do all that work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Doesn't matter as much here. It's open source and has passed two audits. Look at the code. Use different servers if you want. Reimplement the protocol if you can. No really, please somone do it in go or rust. I don't want to learn kotlin 🥲 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 months ago (15 children) Can we stop with the "proton" supports trump. This has been echoing since the tweet. I understand the initial recoil, I had it myself, but proton as an entity very clearly does not support trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] Innerworld@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children) https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Really good article, definitely worth reading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 54 points 4 months ago (9 children) By that logic, Mullvad is fine too, because the entity doesn't support the far right. You are just sending your money to the company which pays the people that do... so... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 4 months ago (7 children) I mean I'm okay expanding that logic here as well for consistency. This is all on a spectrum, one of Mullvad's top employees donates millions to far right politician is on the more extreme end of that spectrum than a tweet that failed to read the room. Taking your counterpoint even further, if you found out some low level employees at any company used a portion of their paycheck to support far right politics would you boycott? Obviously not, which should show you that you don't believe this should be a binary decision. To be clear, I feel mullvad crossed the line here, my point was that the proton hate doesn't compare and is overblown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago That was a sponsorship link anyone was able to use. They them immediately denounced the fascist and are changing how sponsorship links work. Vs Literal founder of company donates millions to literal neo-nazis, doubles down on supporting them permalink fedilink source parent [–] ick@infosec.pub 24 points 4 months ago (3 children) I thought it wasn’t an actual sponsorship, just a referral link system anyone could sign up for and promote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're right. But for some reason, Lemmy has a hate boner for Proton permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] webhead@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago People just easily believe whatever sounds close enough because everything is awful. I hate these far right fuck heads but honestly the witch hunts for literally everything are just exhausting. I can't spend my whole life boycotting fucking everything. I just don't have the fucking energy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago Exactly correct.. And their apology sounded genuine and they took ownership. OP talking about strawman in my post, yet uses a prime example in theirs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago They don't have a MAGA CEO. That was reddit doing its thing and has been debunked since. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 9 points 4 months ago* Uh no? Show me where proton donated millions of dollars to fascists. Their CEO made an unbelievably stupid statement, and then walked it back, but they have not materially supported actual Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Innerworld@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children) https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Really good article, definitely worth reading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Really good article, definitely worth reading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 54 points 4 months ago (9 children) By that logic, Mullvad is fine too, because the entity doesn't support the far right. You are just sending your money to the company which pays the people that do... so... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 4 months ago (7 children) I mean I'm okay expanding that logic here as well for consistency. This is all on a spectrum, one of Mullvad's top employees donates millions to far right politician is on the more extreme end of that spectrum than a tweet that failed to read the room. Taking your counterpoint even further, if you found out some low level employees at any company used a portion of their paycheck to support far right politics would you boycott? Obviously not, which should show you that you don't believe this should be a binary decision. To be clear, I feel mullvad crossed the line here, my point was that the proton hate doesn't compare and is overblown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago That was a sponsorship link anyone was able to use. They them immediately denounced the fascist and are changing how sponsorship links work. Vs Literal founder of company donates millions to literal neo-nazis, doubles down on supporting them permalink fedilink source parent [–] ick@infosec.pub 24 points 4 months ago (3 children) I thought it wasn’t an actual sponsorship, just a referral link system anyone could sign up for and promote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're right. But for some reason, Lemmy has a hate boner for Proton permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] webhead@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago People just easily believe whatever sounds close enough because everything is awful. I hate these far right fuck heads but honestly the witch hunts for literally everything are just exhausting. I can't spend my whole life boycotting fucking everything. I just don't have the fucking energy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago Exactly correct.. And their apology sounded genuine and they took ownership. OP talking about strawman in my post, yet uses a prime example in theirs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago They don't have a MAGA CEO. That was reddit doing its thing and has been debunked since. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 9 points 4 months ago* Uh no? Show me where proton donated millions of dollars to fascists. Their CEO made an unbelievably stupid statement, and then walked it back, but they have not materially supported actual Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 4 months ago (7 children) I mean I'm okay expanding that logic here as well for consistency. This is all on a spectrum, one of Mullvad's top employees donates millions to far right politician is on the more extreme end of that spectrum than a tweet that failed to read the room. Taking your counterpoint even further, if you found out some low level employees at any company used a portion of their paycheck to support far right politics would you boycott? Obviously not, which should show you that you don't believe this should be a binary decision. To be clear, I feel mullvad crossed the line here, my point was that the proton hate doesn't compare and is overblown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago That was a sponsorship link anyone was able to use. They them immediately denounced the fascist and are changing how sponsorship links work. Vs Literal founder of company donates millions to literal neo-nazis, doubles down on supporting them permalink fedilink source parent [–] ick@infosec.pub 24 points 4 months ago (3 children) I thought it wasn’t an actual sponsorship, just a referral link system anyone could sign up for and promote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're right. But for some reason, Lemmy has a hate boner for Proton permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] webhead@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago People just easily believe whatever sounds close enough because everything is awful. I hate these far right fuck heads but honestly the witch hunts for literally everything are just exhausting. I can't spend my whole life boycotting fucking everything. I just don't have the fucking energy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago Exactly correct.. And their apology sounded genuine and they took ownership. OP talking about strawman in my post, yet uses a prime example in theirs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago They don't have a MAGA CEO. That was reddit doing its thing and has been debunked since. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago That was a sponsorship link anyone was able to use. They them immediately denounced the fascist and are changing how sponsorship links work. Vs Literal founder of company donates millions to literal neo-nazis, doubles down on supporting them permalink fedilink source parent [–] ick@infosec.pub 24 points 4 months ago (3 children) I thought it wasn’t an actual sponsorship, just a referral link system anyone could sign up for and promote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're right. But for some reason, Lemmy has a hate boner for Proton permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] webhead@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago People just easily believe whatever sounds close enough because everything is awful. I hate these far right fuck heads but honestly the witch hunts for literally everything are just exhausting. I can't spend my whole life boycotting fucking everything. I just don't have the fucking energy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago Exactly correct.. And their apology sounded genuine and they took ownership. OP talking about strawman in my post, yet uses a prime example in theirs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago They don't have a MAGA CEO. That was reddit doing its thing and has been debunked since. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago That was a sponsorship link anyone was able to use. They them immediately denounced the fascist and are changing how sponsorship links work. Vs Literal founder of company donates millions to literal neo-nazis, doubles down on supporting them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ick@infosec.pub 24 points 4 months ago (3 children) I thought it wasn’t an actual sponsorship, just a referral link system anyone could sign up for and promote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're right. But for some reason, Lemmy has a hate boner for Proton permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] webhead@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago People just easily believe whatever sounds close enough because everything is awful. I hate these far right fuck heads but honestly the witch hunts for literally everything are just exhausting. I can't spend my whole life boycotting fucking everything. I just don't have the fucking energy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago Exactly correct.. And their apology sounded genuine and they took ownership. OP talking about strawman in my post, yet uses a prime example in theirs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're right. But for some reason, Lemmy has a hate boner for Proton permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] webhead@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago People just easily believe whatever sounds close enough because everything is awful. I hate these far right fuck heads but honestly the witch hunts for literally everything are just exhausting. I can't spend my whole life boycotting fucking everything. I just don't have the fucking energy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] webhead@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago People just easily believe whatever sounds close enough because everything is awful. I hate these far right fuck heads but honestly the witch hunts for literally everything are just exhausting. I can't spend my whole life boycotting fucking everything. I just don't have the fucking energy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago Exactly correct.. And their apology sounded genuine and they took ownership. OP talking about strawman in my post, yet uses a prime example in theirs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago They don't have a MAGA CEO. That was reddit doing its thing and has been debunked since. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 9 points 4 months ago* Uh no? Show me where proton donated millions of dollars to fascists. Their CEO made an unbelievably stupid statement, and then walked it back, but they have not materially supported actual Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] incompetent@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago* Proton doesn't support Trump. Their CEO cherished some judge trump put in, and reddit had a field day with it. You seem to be downplaying his support for Trump and the current Republican Party. And if I remember correctly, when the backlash happened, he doubled down on his support. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] incompetent@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago* Proton doesn't support Trump. Their CEO cherished some judge trump put in, and reddit had a field day with it. You seem to be downplaying his support for Trump and the current Republican Party. And if I remember correctly, when the backlash happened, he doubled down on his support. permalink fedilink source parent