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Sick of the Susan Collin/John Fetterman Democrats who vote against their own people (discuss.online)
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[–] 3 points 4 months ago* (13 children)

Ok I guess we have slightly different standards for calling things a genocide then. What did your eyes see that makes you call Russia's illegal invasion a genocide? What is your personal definition of genocide?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    Article II

    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    1. Killing members of the group;
    2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

    See the fifth part where the Russians stripped Ukrainian children of their nationality, forced Russia nationality on them and forcibly adopted them to Russians.

    https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Evidence they're being stripped of their Ukrainian identity?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Are you not worried about the kidnapping and forcible adoption parts?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Should kids that are stuck in a warzone be left to die? Should orphaned children not be given a chance at a normal life if you can't find their parents?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (8 children)

    If someone invaded your house would you want them to kidnap your children to keep them safe?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Can you provide a source for children being deliberately kidnapped from their homes?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (6 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I'm not denying kids are winding up in Russia's custody. That's what should happen. They shouldn't just get lost in the streets or worse part of an active warzone, and if they are orphans then they should be given a house.

    Do you have evidence that they specifically took children from their families to raise in Russian households?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    It literally says so there.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Also this isn't even sealioning lmao. You just can't provide evidence for your claims.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    During the Russo-Ukrainian war,[3] Russia has forcibly transferred almost 20,000 Ukrainian children to areas under its control, assigned them Russian citizenship, forcibly adopted them into Russian families, and created obstacles for their reunification with their parents and homeland.[7][8]The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for President of Russia Vladimir Putin[9] (who has explicitly supported the forced adoptions, including by enacting legislation to facilitate them)[1] and Children's Rights Commissioner Maria Lvova-Belova for their alleged involvement.[9] According to international law, including the 1948 Genocide Convention, such acts constitute genocide if done with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a nation or ethnic group.[10][a]

    Child abductions in the Russo-Ukrainian war

    You won’t believe a source that isn’t Putin or dessalines tell you directly though.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Congrats on copy and pasting from Wikipedia. Now let's focus on this bit: According to international law, including the 1948 Genocide Convention, such acts constitute genocide if done with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a nation or ethnic group.

    As I've already mentioned. It's a good thing not to let children be lost in a war zone. They should be looked after as if they were any other child, leaving them alone would be descrimination. Amd for those that are orphans there's nothing wrong with giving them a chance at an ordinary life. Now can you give evidence that what they're doing isn't them looking after Ukrainian children lost in a war as I'd hope Ukraine would also do if they found Russian children lost in the war, and that these acts are actually a deliberate way to destroy in whole or in part an ethnic group?

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