What a betrayal, I hope Liberal MPs push for a non-confidence vote.

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[–] -2 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Fuck Carney.

We don't need Poilievre 2.0, we need leadership.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    They guy is doing everything he can to diversify away from the U.S. Yes, he also needs to promote US trade as it is and will continue to be a very significant part of the Canadian economy (look at a map if you want to see why). Canada's economy is in a very precarious position. We need to pull out all the stops to survive. That may include some deals with the U.S., allowing some unfortunate environmental impacts, and less progressive financial policies than we might want. But we have to keep the ship afloat if we want to steer it.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    There are a few people here that have a hate boner for anything that doesn't follow exactly what they expect, or just love to hate on Carney for reasons. I really don't get it, do I love everything he is doing. No I don't and that's okay over all he has been a net positive.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    So, when he said that economic integration had become a weakness he was lying? Sorry, but Carney supporters are constantly trying to have it both ways. Just like the man himself.

    We either want deeper economic integration with a fascist neighbour that's building concentration camps and committing war crimes on a near daily basis, or we don't.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    It's not so complicated. We need economic partnerships with the U.S. and we also need economic partnerships with other countries.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    The question is very simple. Do we want deeper integration with the US or not?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Unfortunately yes we do. The proximity makes it economically required even considering the untrustworthiness. We desperately need more other integrations too so balance it.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    OK so yes, you agree that Carney was lying?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Don't see the lie here. I'm sure he lies as he is a politician. But the statements about wanting to diversify but also increase our partnerships with the US aren't contradictory.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I'm not sure that it will make a lick of difference in this conversation to point to Carney's own words, but here they are:

    "You cannot "live within the lie" of mutual benefit through integration when integration becomes the source of your subordination."

    Seems pretty clear what he was saying in Davos, and it's the complete opposite of what he's saying now. But whatever, right?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Carney just spent a month on global trade deals to scare the US into coming to the table. You people are ridiculous, you simply cannot remove your largest trading partner overnight without a full societal collapse.

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