Oh we can rule out actual discourse on Lemmy, this platform's already dead in the water. There's too many ass burgers on here who will take an extremely literal and narrow interpretation of the series of words you typed ignoring any nuance or implication and assuming the examples you chose to cite are the only that exist. At least a few of them are probably employees of the Russian, North Korean or Chinese governments instructed to add truckloads of bad faith to every corner of the English speaking internet.