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Nvidia Announces DLSS 5, and it adds... An AI slop filter over your game (www.digitalfoundry.net)
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I'm completely speechless. This looks so terrible I thought it was a joke, but apparently Nvidia released these demos to impress people. DLSS 5 runs the entire game through an AI filter, making every character look like it's running through an ultra realistic beauty filter.

The photo above is used as the promo image for the official blog post by the way. It completely ignores artistic intent and makes Grace's face look "sexier" because apparently that's what realism looks like now.

I wouldn't be so baffled if this was some experimental setting they were testing, but they're advertising this as the next gen DLSS. As in, this is their image of what the future of gaming should be. A massive F U to every artist in the industry. Well done, Nvidia.

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[–] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

It does not generate a new image, thus generates no AI slop in my book. It is literally an image filter with AI, which is what DLSS already was. This circlejerk slop has torpedoed any discussion about the actual flaws - the uncanny valley effect during animation, the ridiculous amount of GPU power this technology seems to need, how absurd it is in the actual economy - and has substituted it for its circlejerk hallucination that this is just them sneaking image generation into DLSS.

  • It takes color and motion vectors and passes it as input through AI - same as previous versions of AI.

  • It generates no new shapes or geometry.

  • It just applies changes to lighting and materials, basically creating a mask over the original.

If you call this "image generation", you might as well call any filter that. This is not the generative AI the circlejerk slop is hallucinating. It's an evolution of what DLSS was able to achieve before.

I've actually just been corrected, this was referred to employ some form of generative AI by Jensen. It's also significantly different enough to what I generally thought of as AI slop and my issues with it that it could also be said that I am a supporter of generative AI now.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    It's image generation just like the prototypes that converted your drawings into "realistic" image are. It's clearly completely redrawing the frame into a new one using the output of the game as a basis.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-dlss-5-delivers-ai-powered-breakthrough-in-visual-fidelity-for-games

    DLSS 5 introduces a real-time neural rendering model that infuses pixels with photoreal lighting and materials. Bridging the divide between rendering and reality, DLSS 5 empowers game developers to deliver a new level of photoreal computer graphics previously only achieved in Hollywood visual effects.

    DLSS 5 takes a game’s color and motion vectors for each frame as input, and uses an AI model to infuse the scene with photoreal lighting and materials that are anchored to source 3D content and consistent from frame to frame. DLSS 5 runs in real time at up to 4K resolution for smooth, interactive gameplay.

    At most it's texture generation, but if Jensen already identified it as generative AI, I'm not sure why they would then go and lie about it only affecting lighting and material at the pixel level.

    It’s image generation just like the prototypes that converted your drawings into “realistic” image are.

    This it is not, and if Jensen hadn't referred to as generative AI, I would still think it's just an evolution of what DLSS had been doing, except expanded to lighting and materials. Jensen obviously has no problem referring to this as generative AI, so I'm not sure why he would hide and lie about doing what you claim.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    People downvoted for ruining the circlejerk AI hate without bothering to understand the technology. 😩

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    It's worse, I made plenty of criticism to go along with those comments. They are downvoting not only anything that breaks the circlejerk. They've been given free reign to be as toxic as possible, to the point of just being able to get away with spamming multiple communities with claims I'm a bot - and I can't even have my usual fun trolling back in the sea of downvotes because I wrongly dismissed that this was generative AI, something Jensen himself had referred to as 😭

    It would be funny if my account is lost for an issue so temporary. I've already begun to see the circlejerk try to get over what this actually is by switching over from claiming it is AI slop to saying it just makes it look like it and criticism that's actually more valid. Still, it's led to the pretty funny circumstances of people implying I'm an NVIDIA shill, because that also implies that NVIDIA shills have to now get around by telling people they should not support them and their abusive monopoly feeding the AI bubble through global cartels.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Considering NVIDIA's approach to using pirated media for training, I doubt they paid for any of the training data. If that's something you care about.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    That's a good point, but this technique isn't suddenly going to be replacing people's works, jobs, or IP.

    I've criticized NVIDIA for being the abusive monopoly that it is in nearly every other comment, but what you are describing isn't even limited to just NVIDIA, and frankly, I'm not going to be really defending major IP holders, just the small creators. There's a lot of generative AI that's endangering small creators, but in my opinion this is not endangering it.

    My biggest problem with AI training ignoring intellectual property is their hypocrisy to rush technology that is being used to try to replace a lot of real world jobs blindly, not to protect excessively long IP laws and IP copyright trolls and hoarders. People should download their free cars if they can.

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