Old gamers often misunderstand the quality of mobile games.

I realized this a couple of weeks ago when I asked my 12-year-old daughter whether she wanted to bring her Nintendo Switch or her Android tablet on our two-week vacation. She chose the tablet.

Why? Because her Android has Genshin Impact, Fortnite, Roblox, Candy Crush, Wuthering Waves, and Sky: Children of Light. She simply prefers those over her Switch library — which is decent but doesn’t compare to what she’s got on the tablet.

Adults tend to dismiss mobile gaming by saying things like, “There’s no 1:1 equivalent to Super Mario Odyssey, Tears of the Kingdom, or Cyberpunk 2077 on mobile.”

Fine. My daughter has access to all those games. Our family owns over 8,000 games across PC and consoles. She can play Super Mario Odyssey any time she wants, but she doesn’t. She’d rather play Genshin Impact.

And she’s not alone. Most of her friends are on their tablets or phones. It makes sense — gaming is as much about socializing as playing, and iOS and Android dominate for a reason.

Sure, we can scoff and say, “Kids these days don’t recognize a good game when it hits them in the face.”

But I remember feeling that way about Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh. They’re still thriving today, with now-grown adults still playing.

I also think back to my own childhood. My mom hated Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Yet, I snuck a TMNT Game Boy game into the house and played it behind her back. TMNT never disappeared — it’s still around.

With the original Switch’s price rising (at least here in Canada), it just makes sense to consider Android tablets — especially for kids. Sure, you can’t play Black Myth: Wukong on Android, but that’s why I have PCs ready for that. Kids? They just want to have fun and connect with friends.

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[–] 96 points 1 year ago* (34 children)

I understand just fine. The only good mobile games aren't mobile games. They are ports of normal games for mobile devices. Which is a super incredibly small number of games.

And latching onto Gatcha games as a good thing for kids? Might as well get them cigarettes and alcohol too if you wanna get them addicted earlier.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    true on the only good mobile games not being mobile games, though you're wrong about the number being small. Emulation means that entire console libraries are available. I've been plinking away at the SNES library for the past couple of years on my phone and am still spoiled for choice.

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  • [+] [S] -70 points 1 year ago (32 children)

    Wow, an expert on all mobile games—based on exactly how many hours scrolling and judging from your porch?

    There are over 700,000 mobile games on Google Play and the App Store combined. Over seven hundred thousand. You really think you’ve played, let alone fathomed, the quality of that entire universe?

    Lumping all mobile games together because of a few gacha titles is like calling all movies “just commercials” because of some awful reality TV. Face it: the world’s moved on, but you’re still shouting at clouds.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    One does not need to play every single piece of shovelware to be able to identify shovelware.

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  • [+] [S] -55 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    Nope. You must play a game before you call it shovelware. Anything less is just lazy, uninformed hot air.

    If you can’t be bothered to actually try what you’re criticizing, you have zero business judging it. That’s not opinion—that’s ignorance.

    So stop pretending you’re some gaming authority when all you’ve done is shout from the sidelines without ever stepping on the field.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    So you've played every single game ever made, huh? 🙄

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  • [+] [S] -41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I don’t need to have played every game ever made. But I do own several thousand and have played thousands more.

    From that experience, I can tell you this: you never truly understand a game until you play it yourself. That’s why I don’t waste time forming opinions about games I haven’t actually tried.

    Try it sometime—it might change your perspective.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I don't need to step in every pile of shit I see to know it's shit. Seeing it and smelling it is enough to know I don't want to touch or taste it.

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  • [+] [S] -30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You just told me you don’t play anything, so by your own admission, you’ve seen nothing.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If that's your takeaway, I suggest seeking some classes in reading comprehension.

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  • [+] [S] -18 points 1 year ago

    I read you loud and clear—I get that you don’t play mobile games because you think they’re shit.

    And my point is simple: if you don’t play them, your opinion on them counts for exactly nothing.

    No games played = no credibility. It’s that straightforward.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    If you can’t be bothered to actually try what you’re criticizing, you have zero business judging it. That’s not opinion—that’s ignorance.

    If there are 700,000 games then you must judge games without trying them. Otherwise you’d be constantly playing games to see if they’re any good and would still not get through them all.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I have a more compelling suggestion: only judge games you play.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My point is that you need to decide which games to play and that you have already judged a game when you decide not to play it.

    You might not like the art style, or the gameplay, or the reviews or whatever but you have definitely judged it without playing it. The only other alternative is to literally download and play every game that you see.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 1 year ago

    It's entirely your prerogative to spend time and money on whatever you think will be likely worthwhile to you.

    But without actually playing a game, it's strict guesswork on whether a game is quality or not.

    Seriously, there's no harm in saying, "I don't know whether this game is good -- I haven't tried it."

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)
  • [–] [S] -4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I'm skeptical that people here are as knowledgeable as they claim.

    I know from several other threads that the majority of folks here stick to a few handfuls of games and sink 1,000s of hours into them. That might make them an expert at a specific MMO, but it certainly doesn't make them experts in every game at a glance.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    You're judging the gaming habits of the entire population of Lemmy based on a couple anecdotes from random threads? And you want to talk about not making snap judgements?

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Lemmy isn't a big place. People who populate gaming threads are an even smaller fraction of the userbase. So to see the same handful of opinions, repeated again and again, upvoted ad infinitum -- that's a pretty good sample size.

    I deliberately posted this thread as a contrarian take. And what do you know, it proved to be contrarian.

    I didn't say anything outrageous or mean-spirited. Everything has been quite reasonable. But judging by the responses -- you all think every mobile game is a gacha game -- I can safely say few of you have nearly as much experience with games as you believe you do.

    By the way, this is why I generally put little stock into self-declared "gamers" opinions. Most of you are obsessed with playing things in a prescribed manner, in a particular way, regarding a specific canon. And you generally adhere to the same bland culture with little appreciation for diversity.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The hypocrisy of claiming that you can't judge any game without physically playing it yourself, then turning around and judging thousands of people you've never interacted with based on a couple interactions, is absolutely staggering.

    Consider giving human beings the same benefit of the doubt that you give to software.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Ha! A “few” interactions…

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And yet you jumped all over people claiming to have played enough games to be able to recognize crap when they see it. Again, you're dismissing real people while standing up for what exactly? Defending corporate garbage?

    I enjoy the occasional mobile game too, I don't have an issue with your general opinion. But you certainly aren't convincing anyone with the childish attitude and ridiculous reasoning.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Dismissing? Nah.

    Calling out groupthink when I see the same tired talking points—no research, no citations, just noise? Hell yeah, I’m gonna call that out.

    I’ve never defended “corporate garbage.” I’ve said straight up: there are hundreds of thousands of mobile games, some you can buy outright—no microtransactions attached. More premium paid games on iOS alone than the entire NES, SNES, N64, and GameCube libraries combined.

    Let me say it again: you don’t have to play gacha games. Plenty of premium mobile titles exist if you’re willing to look.

    But here? Everyone ignores that fact, chooses groupthink instead, and barks the same tired lines.

    And yeah, I know this won’t convince anyone here. They’re too busy flexing their Lemmy in-group credentials to entertain anything that breaks the echo chamber.

    I’m saying it anyway, loud and clear.

    There are literally people here insisting all mobile games are gacha. When I drop hard stats proving otherwise, instead of reconsidering, suddenly I’m a secret shill pushing for some stats company.

    That’s the quality of convo I’m dealing with in this thread. And you? No different.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    You're inventing a lot of enemies here and listening to no one.

    Nobody is claiming all mobile games are gacha, just pointing out that all the ones you talked about initially are, and they wildly dominate the market.

    Honestly I don't know why I'm bothering, I have more to say but this a waste of my time.

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  • [+] 17 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [+] [S] -16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    How about we stick to facts instead of making things up?

    As of July 2025, there are 14,139 premium, paid games on the iOS App Store—meaning games that are not free-to-play, not gacha, and have no microtransactions.

    To put that in perspective: iOS alone has more complete, self-contained games than the NES, SNES, N64, and GameCube libraries combined.

    https://42matters.com/stats

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Bro are you a sales rep for this data company and this whole post is just a way to drive people to your product? Because that’s about the only explanation I have for, all t h i s.

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  • [+] [S] -12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Wow, that’s some next-level conspiracy thinking—just because I share stats with a source, you leap straight to “sales rep for the statistics company” territory?

    What’s next, claiming schools teach math just to line Texas Instruments’ pockets?

    Here’s the simple truth: I’m tired of hearing people mindlessly parrot the same tired talking points with zero facts to back them up.

    If having an unpopular opinion rattles your echo chamber, so be it. I’m perfectly fine with that.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Bro this entire post and every reply you’ve made is just next level unhinged, I was giving you a generous benefit of doubt here, because you being a sales rep is about the only way this isn’t insane cringe.

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That’s great—I love being cringe. It means I’ve hit a nerve and said something so contrary that it actually rattles you.

    Funny thing is, you haven’t actually told me how or why I’m wrong—just that I’m cringe.

    If that’s all you’ve got, I’m doing something right.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hahaha.

    It means I’ve hit a nerve and said something so contrary that it actually rattles you.

    Funny thing is, you haven’t actually told me how or why I’m wrong—just that I’m cringe.

    You have a really inflated sense of your impact on me buddy. I’m not here to tell you you’re right or wrong, I have no opinion on this whole inane debate at all. I play video games for fun, and if other people are having fun playing video games I’m happy for them, I don’t give a single solitary fuck whether they do it on a pc, console, phone, tablet, or by uploading Doom to a cock ring with lcd display and play it by popping their dick with kegels.

    I’m just here to tell you that you’re giving off major “meth head arguing with a brick wall in the alley behind 7-11” energy.

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