▲ 502 ▼ Not that limit (lemmy.world) submitted 9 months ago by ultrahamster64@lemmy.world to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 34 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 51 points 9 months ago (11 children) It’s been a while… but isn’t that negative? Or is there some default given of which side it’s approaching from. permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] SculptusPoe@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (Just including the graph for reference. I'm not sure it helps with proper description or the answer the teacher was asking for, but you can see that from one direction it goes negative as you approach 8 and from the other it goes to positive infinity.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 9 months ago* (5 children) I think it is not defined. It has a limes from the left (- inf) and limes from the right (+ inf) but no two-sided limes. Edit: wolframalpha agrees but I don't know for sure permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (3 children) It has a limes from the left… and limes from the right… Is that the Tootsie Roll Theorem? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago (2 children) You put the lime on the coconut and drink it all up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago* (1 child) You put the lime in the coconut. You're such a silly woman. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago No kink shaming! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago Yeah, it would have to be defined as a one-sided limit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (3 children) I have a BA in Mathematics. The limit is indeed determined by the direction you approach the limiting value. When given without specification, the limit is implied to come from the left, meaning it increases towards the limiting value, which is why you see +inf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] carmo55@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago* (2 children) This is just not true. The normal limit we have here means a limit would have to exist from both directions and they should be equal. They're not, so the limit doesn't exist. One-sided limits would be denoted by x -> 5– and x -> 5+ or similar. PS: in complex analysis, there is no distinction between +infty and -infty, so there it would be correct to say the function has limit infty at 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago In my experience with maths, there's a whole bunch of different conventions all over the place, so it might've genuinely been how they were taught, even if you were taught differently... permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right. But in this case, which is the case I was referring to, there is no two sided limit. It is discontinuous. It is in this case which I was referring to. Sorry for not being clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SculptusPoe@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (Just including the graph for reference. I'm not sure it helps with proper description or the answer the teacher was asking for, but you can see that from one direction it goes negative as you approach 8 and from the other it goes to positive infinity.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 9 months ago* (5 children) I think it is not defined. It has a limes from the left (- inf) and limes from the right (+ inf) but no two-sided limes. Edit: wolframalpha agrees but I don't know for sure permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (3 children) It has a limes from the left… and limes from the right… Is that the Tootsie Roll Theorem? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago (2 children) You put the lime on the coconut and drink it all up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago* (1 child) You put the lime in the coconut. You're such a silly woman. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago No kink shaming! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago Yeah, it would have to be defined as a one-sided limit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (3 children) It has a limes from the left… and limes from the right… Is that the Tootsie Roll Theorem? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago (2 children) You put the lime on the coconut and drink it all up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago* (1 child) You put the lime in the coconut. You're such a silly woman. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago No kink shaming! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago (2 children) You put the lime on the coconut and drink it all up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago* (1 child) You put the lime in the coconut. You're such a silly woman. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago No kink shaming! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago* (1 child) You put the lime in the coconut. You're such a silly woman. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago No kink shaming! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago Yeah, it would have to be defined as a one-sided limit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (3 children) I have a BA in Mathematics. The limit is indeed determined by the direction you approach the limiting value. When given without specification, the limit is implied to come from the left, meaning it increases towards the limiting value, which is why you see +inf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] carmo55@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago* (2 children) This is just not true. The normal limit we have here means a limit would have to exist from both directions and they should be equal. They're not, so the limit doesn't exist. One-sided limits would be denoted by x -> 5– and x -> 5+ or similar. PS: in complex analysis, there is no distinction between +infty and -infty, so there it would be correct to say the function has limit infty at 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago In my experience with maths, there's a whole bunch of different conventions all over the place, so it might've genuinely been how they were taught, even if you were taught differently... permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right. But in this case, which is the case I was referring to, there is no two sided limit. It is discontinuous. It is in this case which I was referring to. Sorry for not being clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] carmo55@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago* (2 children) This is just not true. The normal limit we have here means a limit would have to exist from both directions and they should be equal. They're not, so the limit doesn't exist. One-sided limits would be denoted by x -> 5– and x -> 5+ or similar. PS: in complex analysis, there is no distinction between +infty and -infty, so there it would be correct to say the function has limit infty at 5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago In my experience with maths, there's a whole bunch of different conventions all over the place, so it might've genuinely been how they were taught, even if you were taught differently... permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right. But in this case, which is the case I was referring to, there is no two sided limit. It is discontinuous. It is in this case which I was referring to. Sorry for not being clear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago In my experience with maths, there's a whole bunch of different conventions all over the place, so it might've genuinely been how they were taught, even if you were taught differently... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right. But in this case, which is the case I was referring to, there is no two sided limit. It is discontinuous. It is in this case which I was referring to. Sorry for not being clear. permalink fedilink source parent