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[–] 13 points 9 months ago (8 children)

And having kids is the best way to not get a better future.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I used to think this. Then I remembered everyone will get old and no one will be around to run the economy.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    But ... our current economic system is a big part of how things got so bad. Being able to fuck it up is kinda a motivator for not having kids-

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Who do you think suffers most during economic turmoil though? If you want to fuck up the economy in a productive way you need mass action, for which you need a mobilized working class. Reducing the number of workers doesn't help with this.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    That is a very different argument from no one being around to run the economy. I don't necessarily disagree, but I don't think that the ratio of workers to owners will change meaningfully before the system is at a breaking point due to missing labour. Not having children also doesn't preclude you from working to induce mass action.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Ok I just don't see a reasonable way that less children helps to fight the oligarchy. Not having enough nurses to take care of all the dying boomers does what to further the cause? Eliminating labor doesn't work the same way as withholding labor. I can't exactly imagine a childless adult union so what would the plan even be?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    We just need to like… skip a generation, then breed just enough to stay level.

    I don’t think anyone means no one should have children, but man… there’s too many fucking people. And it doesn’t mean killing people, just letting people die naturally while not adding more.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago*

    Yeah funny thing is this is basically what we're already doing. China's one child policy and neoliberal austerity everywhere else ensured the current generation of children is smaller than ever. We're running the experiment now, and overall we'd be fine if the countries that have negative growth rates weren't so xenophobic and let immigrants in to replace their ageing workforce.

    Twenty years ago I would have agreed, there's too many people, but now the pendulum is swinging the other way.

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