Content jacking and top posting other people's content is really bad for Lemmy. It's also just being a dick to other people making content on the platform.

  • feed is spammy
  • divides conversation
  • chills engagement
  • makes Lemmy less friendly to posters

This pattern is very common on lemmy, and needs to stop.

This is often used to attack or force migrate conversations from a instance someone doesn't like to another instance they do like. It's offensive by its very nature.

If you want to make a better community, great, do it but not at the expense of other Lemmy posters.

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[–] [S] 15 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Let's say you make a niche post about a programming feature

2-6 hours later someone copies your post exactly but doesn't cross post. Now people browsing by New see the copy first and if they do see the original it feels redundant/ spammy.

If people do talk about this niche thing it's likely they won't be talking in the same place.

You as the poster won't see the engagement with your content, you won't see comments, and you may be less incentivized to post again

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    If the cross post feature is used, does it merge comments as well?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It does on Piefed

    https://piefed.zip/post/100161

    All comments from 5 crossposts in a single view

    A few options

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That's cool, but if it's only piefed I can see the same conversations being repeated. Maybe it'll come to Lemmy. Or is Lemmy old hat now and we should all move to piefed?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Lemmy devs recently stated that this is a client problem, and that they don't plan to change that

    In lemmy-ui we’ve chosen to link the posts at the top rather than combine comment threads.

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46984024/19528869

    IMO it's a shame, because having the consolidated view is just much better to initiate conversations, but at least Piefed offers that options.

    Or is Lemmy old hat now and we should all move to piefed?

    A few instances popped recently, so there's definitely some traction towards that. Also the 1.0 version was just announced on !piefed_meta@piefed.social .

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    That person is the admin of lazysoci.al

    What would be the issue of them starting piefed.lazysoci.al as another option?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Thanks for explaining. If someone is stealing posts, then it's up to the moderators and/or admins to deal with that.

    But as I said, there's a lot of people on Lemmy that think theft is okay. Hence sanctioning bots to steal content from elsewhere on the net.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago

    At least with the bot, it's clear that this is one way communication, and usually the bots tell you where it's coming from.

    But just a person copying everything, so you think they're the original creator, but they're not. Which means if you respond to that post, they're not going to respond, they don't care. They're just stealing. They're trying to move everybody to their new community

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    But as I said, there’s a lot of people on Lemmy that think theft is okay.

    Theft happening to others, maybe. Try stealing from them ;)

    then it’s up to the moderators and/or admins to deal with that.

    That being said, I agree this is the moderator's job to deal with it but keep in mind that:

    • Mods are benevolent and there aren't that many to begin with.
    • One may still need to report the issue for the mod to become aware of it.
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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    thanks, that explains why some of my posts are also copied to other instances 🤔

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Hello,

    I dm'd you a few days ago about !privacy@programming.dev and asking whether there any reason to not use !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    The second one is quite more active: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=privacy&order=active_month

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    There is a extremely good reason not to use a privacy community that forbids talking about cryptography.

    We have had this discussion many times. Pretending it doesn't matter is just being obtuse at this point.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    To be completely honest, I forgot about the crypto rule.

    Lee Duna also posted several articles to that community in the past: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/search?q=+&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=1111729&creatorId=430615&page=1&sort=New

    So I'm not sure that is drove their decision.

    We have had this discussion many times.

    The previous threads didn't mention this point

    Pretending it doesn’t matter is just being obtuse at this point.

    Not sure why you're being so aggressive.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm being forthright because concentrating communities to instances has repercussions especially when the moderators of the new instance defederate aggressively or ban relevant topics.

    Apologies if we didn't discuss it before, I thought you and I had discussed the privacy community at least 3 times. In fact I blocked it due to people cross posting content to it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I’m being forthright because concentrating communities to instances has repercussions especially when the moderators of the new instance defederate aggressively or ban relevant topics.

    Of course, but there is also a limited amount of instances available. We tried !privacyguides@lemmy.one, but it's shutting down soon.

    If the privacy community has a really strong opinion about cryptocurrencies (which I don't think they do, as it's the most active community that isn't on .ml), we could organize a move to lemmy.ca. Although Lemmy.ca isn't maybe the best choice as they might need a Canadian-specific privacy community, and having both next to each other would be confusing.

    Apologies if we didn’t discuss it before, I thought you and I had discussed the privacy community at least 3 times.

    I vaguely remember it, but it's been a while, and my vague memories were that crytocurrencies could be discussed on other communities.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    vague memories were that crytocurrencies could be discussed on other communities.

    yes... like !privacy@programming.dev so when i see campaigning to remove the few spaces where i can discuss things I care about... it gets my hackles up.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I like programming.dev (I am the main poster on !mechanical_keyboards@programming.dev ), but there always seem to be some technical issues with it, the most recent 11 days ago: https://programming.dev/post/31970658

    The biggest issue was probably 7 months ago, when there was a database corruption that impacted the whole instance from 13th October to 12th of January: https://programming.dev/post/20515601?sort=New&view=Flat

    Preferring one instance (dbzer0 in this case) doesn't mean other instances aren't as valuable, it's just choosing what is "the best fit" for a community

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