I think Debian has a similar option though provided by a third party.

Change => changing behavior etc. That is not a problem at all as long as it 100% compatible - which in this case is very hard to prove. The way to introduce change is therefore to say it is a new, different, standard. API version 2 or a new protocol, and let users migrate over to that by requesting the new version/protocol etc.

One difference is though that Ubuntu 26.10 is a new release(not LTS) so you would need to have a migration process anyway.

but.. you read the article right.. right... this is only for enterprise

I strongly disagree. I know this is the Internet consensus nowadays, but I have seen malware beating Defender multiple times. The last two times it was not zero day malware, but rather Defender failed due to architectural reasons. (not robust, reliable enough definition update mechanism & scanning stalled so the -relatively ancient- virus just disabled defender before it could've protected you) The last time happened a little over a year ago, so it's not ancient history.

Sure, if you have a fresh WIndows install & Defender correctly updated its database, then it might benchmark very well. Detection itself will only stall under very specific circumstances that are not uncommon, but will not occur on a typical test rig.

I have never seen such problems with Eset & Bitdefender. Even Kasparesky is doing a better job at pretending to be not spyware but an actual security suite than Defender.

You can add Ubuntu PPAs if you really want to, but you will likely run into dependency issues fairly quick.

That's a terrible idea and shouldn't even be suggested. I learned that the hard way about 15 years ago trying to get graphics drivers working on Crunchbang.

It's just another step in their EEE program.

the title is wrong the body of the articke is correct. this isnt for you. this is for the enterprise who are already using defrnder (for enterprise) but want to add linux workstations

No, and there probably shouldn't be. Most software I want is packaged as a deb or flatpak, or can be git cloned or tar xzf'd and run. I've never found it difficult.

You can add Ubuntu PPAs if you really want to, but you will likely run into dependency issues fairly quick.

Alas my Surface Pro (running Linux) has shit the bed and I am not sure what to get, the Framework 12 or ... 13pro or Tuxedo 13pro where my choices and run the 13 as a desktop via TB dock at home and retire my actual desktop (an older mini pc).

The issue for me is I travel 7 or 8 months a year, the other 4 or 5 months the laptop sits in the bag at home doing nothing, so a pumped up laptop with TB used for both, or a cheaper travel laptop that sits idle for long periods ?

You seriously thing somebody woke up one morning and said "let's change it up" and set out to replace core-utils with uutils? No reason besides "I want change"?

You seriously think memory safety isn't a "tangible benefit"?

I thought makedeb was still the answer? Or checkinstall or whatever?

They added an option for enterprise to extend security patches support for unsupported old distros, and then gave it free to users too behind a pro account. But you don't need it unless you're on a very old version of ubuntu.

I remember joystickwake was one of the main things that pushed me to try the MPR a few years ago, when I was testing Debian on my laptop. I got so frustrated with setting up the MPR that I just installed EndeavourOS.

Mesen-CE is another program I use that's not in Debian's repos. It's not too hard to set up without it, but it'd be nice if it were there.

I don't think vkquake is in Debian's repos either, but I'm not 100% sure about that. It recently made it into Arch's main repos, which is cool.

I'm not sure if Faugus Launcher is in Debian's repos either.

EDIT: I just double-checked. None of these programs are in Debian's repos, but Faugus is on Flathub.

is there something specific you want that isn't on the debian repo? i believe they have almost the largest repo among distros.

my distro (slackware) has very few packages, for things i need that aren't available i just compile from source. especially with stable distros it's not a big deal because you don't have to recompile often

I've seen the server version in action. It hooks into the linux audit subsystem, and traces every system action and operation. The data it collects is super detailed, and designed to track which user, which program, and which servers are connected to, which files are read and written to track and potentially halt lateral movement through networks.

For regulated enterprise environments, it satisfies IDS/IPS/EDR requirements, and it's all wired up with their M365/Intune/Defender management portal. It makes some neat reports automatically about how data flows through a network, especially if all the points on your network are licensed ($$) and included in the defender system.

For personal systems. Yikes. Just Yikes.

It also relies on modern CPU features, so it would complain loudly about our older servers, and spam logs with messages about how it couldn't run, even though the system was updated to a current version of linux. It also had (last year?) some bugs that had it spinning wildly on a closed socket, which was fun to find :-/.

I'm not sure tbh, but the idea of locking any security updates behind One irritates me.

It's basically chromium running the web version, but it appears as though it's a stand alone app. At least that's how it worked for the couple of Teams for Linux and Outlook for Linux apps I tried. I used this as part of a contract gig for about 2 years on Ubuntu machine.

oof, i really hope this sample is not representative of the general type of people on this forum. go outside and find some nature to sit in

Yes I hate the snap for everything stuff.

Regarding security updates, are the missing ones critical? I have been ignoring ubuntu one.

Ubuntu started locking certain security updates behind Ubuntu One a few years ago. They also won't stop pushing Snap over native packages.

One reason I use Debian is that the repo is so large most things are there. If they are not or what is there is too old I use primarily flatpak and appimage.

Curious what you do not like about Ubuntu? I admit I am not crazy about it these days but one reason we uٌse it for some systems is the supported software. We are at 24.04 and only uprgade every 4 years but it seems to work fine.

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Well, shit. I appreciate the conversation at least!

And also cannot ("legally") use the plugins that make vscode worth using in the first place