Don't confuse many with most.

What a non issue right now. Tariffs will get dismissed the same way someone declines a receipt. We have other shit thats more important to fix. Also probably fix your brexit issue while we’re out thanks

• Gas AKA energy prices
• The war in Iran
• Immigration enforcement (ICE)
• Tariffs
• Foreign policy (this could have a list of its own)
• Blatant corruption
• Raising the national debt to insane levels
• The push for AI
• The constant culture war
• … etc

I don’t know why everyone keeps insisting the only reason we finally voted against this administration is “because of gas prices”. If that’s what you think then you haven’t been paying attention.

As if we haven’t been constantly protesting ICE, Project 2025, and the “Big Beautiful Bill” for over a year. As if 40/41 municipalities haven’t rejected new data centers as a clear stand-in for the pushback against this AI madness. As if these midterms weren’t our first opportunity in our representative democracy to truly show our displeasure by voting… which we just did. Resoundingly.

Are you willing to sacrifice your kids and partner? Not so many people are. I'm the primary earner in my home and if I lost my job my wife and children would be homeless and hungry. If it was only me, sure, I'll burn down some data centers or storm a castle or whatever, but it's not and that's the reality for a lot of people. So, instead, we do what we can, by voting and trying to make some change. I agree that if everyone got up and did something all at once shit would change real fuckin' quick, but do you think you can convince most people that their loved ones are worth losing?

Happy to make your day :)

As a Canadian, I kept saying that the USA was a ticking time bomb. We should have worked with Europe a long time ago.

Because we're still one of the biggest economies in the world and money talks.

I logged in just to tell you, bravo.

I've just read the 2 comments of yours in that sub-thread here, and that's beautifully done.

From that, I can see you are an intelligent being speaking from yourself, not copy-pasting "pre-made" arguments found on the forums like lemmy/reddit/etc.

It's refreshing, and I would like to see more of that. The only thing I can do, that I can control, to perhaps see that more often on the internet is to show my gratitude here.

Thank you.

No. America is uniquely awful.

They did have lots of cake apparently. /s

Counter-claim: humans ARE good. Look the fuck around and see all the acts of everyday kindness.

It's just that horrible people have what it takes to come to power. And, by extension, they know full well that if they shift the blame and make people think bad of each other, they'll never organize against their true enemies.

Why would the rest of the world want a thing to do with us? We're mostly a bunch of religious fanatics, waving guns around and doing damage with big trucks. Keep us out.

But seriously, claims of whataboutism shouldn't serve as a defense. Yes, it's bad nevertheless. No, you can't shield from the counter-blame by that.

Both sides suck here, it's time to acknowledge and change it. Don't hold moral high ground through the virtue of being born elsewhere. Make a change for the better, wherever you are.

Conflating people and government seems to be an always recurring topic.

Seen so many times, over and over

what about___?!

Humans aren’t good. Look the fuck around.

We are completely ignoring the amount of taxing Europe has done on imports from small businesses for years prior to this. Why in the fuck is it ok for them to charge more than the price of the product to import it? Why is it ok for them to charge small businesses a minimum amount of fees to import while they exempt big businesses like Walmart? Europe is doing the exact same thing that America did while pretending to do the opposite. Soon you’ll have nothing but Walmart to shop at and you’ll blame Americans for it.

Well thanks for unfucking everything likely only a few of the things (we know you by now) that you guys fucked.

Now go fuck yourself for a while. Maybe in a decade or two, if you show you are capable of behaving yourself (you won't) we can see if we can be buddies again. Until then, get fucked

right, and there are already faithless elector laws. but the ones i'm familiar with, they punish casting the wrong vote. they don't correct it.

You wrote a lot but didn't say much. Enjoy that inflatable dinghy of yours. Times better spent that way.

Fix your broken electoral system and get money out of your politics and maybe we can talk again.

All empires fail eventually.

This is an absolutely ridiculous way to read the situation, and demonstrates a deeply thoughtless and unserious approach to understanding politics and international relations in general.

There are very specific reasons why both Republicans and Democrats agree on putting tariffs on those products and goods. That's not even remotely comparable to the current situation where Trump is just wildly tariffing everything in a completely deranged, scattershot approach. Even his own party doesn't agree with his current tariff policy, they're just too craven to actually stop him doing it.

What you're doing is just pointing an inflatable dinghy and The USS Gerald Ford, and saying "These both float, therefore the dinghy is capable of launching aircraft." Sure, if you ignore literally every single distinction between two things, they're the same.

I like the idea of that but realistically, theyre one of the richest countries and the largest economic block for the short and medium and probably long term.

They already are North Korea of the west. They have a cult deified leader, he says ridiculous things, everyone (especially the american media) take it seriously, his advisors say that what he does is "glorious, historic, unprecedented", they wear hats that say things like "Trump Was Right About Everything", many Americans have pictures of Trump hanging in their own homes. Some even have tattoos of him.

When he dies, you'll see people publically bawling. So many monuments and statues will go up. Hell be revered warmly and nostalgically in any history books or media.

Based on the already established history that the Biden administration kept Trump's first term section 301 tariffs on China

In relationship to Canada, Biden kept Trump's tariffs on soft wood lumber imports and actively doubled them.

Biden also aggressively expanded duties on Chinese electric vehicles by 100%, 50% on solar cells, and 25% on lithium-ion batteries, steel, and aluminum.

Biden also reinstated 25% tariffs on Mexican steel

The Americans support tariffs on their trading partners and their perceived enemies, which is most countries.