I do not use the term "cancel culture" to be pejorative ot derogatory, just that it's the commonly used term used for the sharp side of our current half-tapped-into honor system, if that's why there is doubt over whether I ask in good faith. To clarify, the thing I struggle to understand is why or how one's collective of social stances do heavier lifting in regards to what would be called their dishonor than death. I've been in a number of communities where this question comes up in my mind; in one (unrelated to any community we're in), I've been told to leave on the basis of having what I can best described is a stigmatized type of dysphoria because it was thought to be in bad faith to come out of the closet about it, all the while the second-most popular individual in the community is a known supporter of Islamic terrorism who keeps returning. Imagine being told "I'm sorry, but we're ordering you to leave due to people raising a stink", all the while you have what you at least would think is the most obvious opportunity to ask "but what about that guy". Surely so many people in the world don't prioritize that. And cancel culture is about the masses, so...

And this then leads me to think of past instances. Like, Harry Potter is homophobic and implicitly racist, etc. and so might something like Ender's Game be. But how dare I say that the ableistic murder at the end of Of Mice and Men delivered by the protagonist was uncalled for. Or how dare I say super heroes like The Punisher are overkill.

Or to put it another way, suppose we were talking about the Godfather. They kill people, they steal, they cheat, they ruin lives. That makes the story. It's a mafia story. I'm in no way saying they should be discriminatory, but... if they did, the story has all that other stuff, so what does that add? The mafia was all old timey Catholics. One could say "realism is realism" or "idealism is idealism" and so forth, but it's like each only applies sometimes. I don't grasp a lot of it. There are even authors who have themselves committed murder, like Kouri Richins who murdered her husband before writing a book on how to grieve over a family member of all things. She was locked up, but her book is flying off the shelves. Like holy shit.

Alright. I'm gonna take a stab at this based on my own understanding and readings, and the assumption that you asked in good faith. We're going to break this up into a few things to answer your question.

The short answer is that murder/violence and cancel culture are not in the same box. It is a comparison of apples, oranges, and bananas.

The Merriam-Webster definition of cancel culture is: "The practice or tendency of engaging in mass canceling as a way of expressing disapproval and exerting social pressure."

Murder

The reason there isn't cancel culture (from my perspective) around this is that it is a direct violation of the social contract. You took a life, and it is up to the criminal courts to hold you accountable for the action. In essence, you're arrested for this and tried; you're already canceled, but by the state that's trying you.

Violence

Cancel culture does exist around this, but it depends on what is known. I believe that you only see it when there is a perception that the justice system has failed and the conscience of the masses thinks it needs to exact some sort of justice. That's where you see people being ostracized for domestic violence, accusations of sexual assault, etc. The criminal justice system hasn't acted on it for whatever reason, so others feel that it is their responsibility to do so.

The Moral Contract

Cancel culture is a social weapon that is used against people who are believed to have violated the moral social contract, and they are ostracized for those reasons. For example, Colin Kaepernick was canceled because he was kneeling for the Super Bowl (even though he didn't break any law, as the action is protected by the First Amendment), but because of the social moral conscience in 2016, his action was seen as an affront and thus had to be punished.

Hopefully this helped answer your question.

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There are no overt monarchists in America, but a large portion of them are king-curious.

check my most recent long comment if you would like a snapshot of what we're going through.

speaking to the old people here:

your generation did a good job at creating good people, and now we have a different red line than you do. yours was hit a few years ago, ours was hit before that. it's less about the 2004 leftist genius aesthetic now, and more and more about not being the reason ethnic groups are eliminated. you told us to practice what we preached and we listened to you because we love you

i am eating delicious waffle house

i see young people , most are still going through schooling, and people that graduated literally have no jobs, and because of layoffs they are constant stressed thinking about finding a career, or lack of, and htier own friend and families constantly pressuring them(if you look at posts on many a platform about this from a search online you will see most of it happen within 3-6 years, these people arnt protesting). you literally have to have free time on your hands to protest,

Also the apathetic people too, YOUTUBE, meta, amazon, streaming servies is enough of distraction for them or they dont see this problem is affecting them, so they dont care.

Because the youth are busy on social media 'doing their bit'.

I work in a very red area. At one point there was a no kings protest every Saturday morning for about 4 months, those did tend to be older people. Yesterday, the crowd that came was a much more diverse, much more lively crowd. Plenty of older people still, but skewed younger than usual.

Younger people are squeezed by the system in terms of poverty & needing to work. They are disillusioned that anything systemic works, because, well, look around.

Boomers & many of Gen X are retired or have free time. They grew up when these social movements had more power in America. I think it gives a lot of them something to do & some amount of hope.

I think it's because No Kings has little to offer young people.

Young people want economic mobility, quality public education, and a sane foreign policy including ending the genocide. No Kings protests tend to shy away from these subjects.

In fact, the No Kings protest is somewhat unique in that it does not have any specific demands at all. It has a focus on defending democracy and criticism of Trump, which are valid, but the main thrust is that older liberals want to go back to the pre-Trump era.

The pre-Trump era was great for these older liberals- it was their golden era- but younger generations do not look back so fondly. Millennials remember this era as a time of economic hardship; Gen Z are too young to remember the positivity of the late 90s/early 2000s.

The youthful political energy is with the DSA at the current moment. "No Kings" and DSA agree on many things, but there is also deep disagreement on many serious issues.

I went to the first one. I'm in a Republican leaning county, and I was really surprised with the turnout in general. Ours had a pretty diverse range of ages, and I was more surprised by the number of seniors, as they're the ones I think of as being more conservative. Plenty were there with their teens or adult children and a good number of veterans too.

Our town has been in the national news for teens getting in a fight with the (out of uniform) police chief after the chief tackled and choked (allegedly) one of the teens, so at least a noticeable portion of our young people are willing to get involved.

Not anymore.

That is even more dumb than I realized. Kelly Clarkson is an asshole and her fans suck.

Washed up singer who has a TV show now for some reason.

Don't forget to add salt.

AFAIK WAS state passed a law that unless the cooks were front facing (aka in front of guests) tips could not be split with them.

Law may have changes as this was 2010 or so

Some wait staff tip out the kitchen with some percentage of tips, but cooks are generally paid the non-tipped minimum wage. Some places try to forbid these agreements and I think they may be illegal in some places.

I also got tipped out working as a bar back/security/whateverElseNotBartending in bars.

what a karen, sounds like she wants to stay relevant somehow.

No, I think the Who is a band from the 70s. Kelly Clarkson is a former car show host.

I think you're probably right and the problematic person ends up being Kelly but it's still unclear.

Edit: Okay I'm gonna look properly instead actually. Puts on hazmat suit.

Kelly Clarkson visited Art of Play, a curiosity/magic shop in Brooklyn Heights, on Oct 10, and asked about "Molly," a one-off art piece mechanical singing bird on the wall. Kelly claims the employee "elevator eyed" her and condescendingly said it was $15,000 and offered to find "something comparable."

https://www.eonline.com/news/1437066/kelly-clarkson-art-of-play-drama-security-footage-revealed

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/kelly-clarkson-art-of-play-shop-9.7378787

The store then countered that Molly is their mascot, permanently wall-mounted and never for sale. The $15,000 tag they say actually referred to ordering a custom "twin" from the Seattle artist who built it, and they offered to show her a $2,000 bird she could take home instead.

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/kelly-clarkson-art-of-play-pretty-woman-feud

https://reason.com/2026/10/12/release-the-kelly-clarkson-tapes

Then Kelly posted a photo of Molly with the $15,000 tag, which social media immediately read as proof the store lied, blood in the water.

https://people.com/kelly-clarkson-seen-interacting-with-brooklyn-store-owner-and-employees-in-new-footage-12172583

The store reiterated their claim that the tag was for custom orders, not Molly itself. Co-owner Adam Rubin said Kelly's posts "put us in danger" amid a wave of harassment and fake negative reviews, and cheekily raised Molly's price to $15 million.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/article/kelly-clarksons-beef-with-a-brooklyn-store-has-gone-viral-neither-side-is-backing-down-120356065.html

https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/music/news/kelly-clarkson-art-of-play-dispute-mechanical-bird-b3065646.html

There's everything caught up. Now you know against your will maybe, sorry.

She is a celebrity who was shopping and got mad because something wasn't for sale so complained to her fans who are now causing problems for the store. I'm trying to avoid knowing more because it is completely stupid.

Who is Kelly Clarkson?

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no.

Okay then,

So, the original word for “bear” is lost in time. Whatever it was was lost because people at the time didn’t want to invoke its presence. So the word bear, basically means: “the brown one” and whatever it was originally called is lost.