I'll write it however everyone wants, but I sort of thought it was some idea from the New York Times and not necessarily what the black community wants per se.

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[–] 47 points 4 months ago (5 children)

One guy I know likes to be called Steve

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Who are you?
    How do we know each other?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Steve too? I haven't seen you at the meetings

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago*

    Haven't been to a meeting in years.
    I know, they're "mandatory". But it's not like anyone takes a head count. And nobody's even noticed I wasn't going anymore.

    Becides, they're always the same bullshit. Anything actually important will be in the newsletter. It's fine.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Am black. Doesn't matter so long as it's consistent (i.e. black and white or Black and White).

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Funny you say that, because the generally accepted style is Black and white. Here's Microsoft's style guide for another example.

    Generally speaking, capital "W" White tends to have supremacist overtones in print.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Funny you say that, because the generally accepted style is Black and white. Here’s Microsoft’s style guide for another example.

    TIL

    Generally speaking, capital “W” White tends to have supremacist overtones in print.

    You got what I was getting at. It's a sign I've noticed. Some commenters will make it a point to type White and black or will use constructs like "a black" or "the blacks."

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago

    I just only seem to think it came from some idea from the NY Times, and I don't think anyone says White, so it just seems, off kilter I guess I'd say. Of course I will say whatever is proper, but it's just, odd.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    black people don't but Black people do

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I'm a white guy, but that seems weird to me. We capitalize a country or origin (e.g., English, African), but not a description. We don't capitalize "redhead" or "tall."

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    We do capitalise community names though - like deaf vs Deaf.

    This is the same, it's not being used as a description of how someone looks, but to what community they belong.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I know one word I'll never call them, capital or not. It's also why I can't sing along with Busta Rhymes songs, if I'm being honest.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It's a political choice that some folks in the Black liberation movement choose in order to emphasise Blackness. Not all Black people do it. I don't think anyone would tell you off for choosing to capitalise it or not. Both are quite common.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I just want to be correct, but it still seems like a white person who writes for the NY Times idea and not universal for all black people, and that seems.... cringey.

    I got myself into a tizzy last year as I was editing a document and it was on a person who uses they/them pronouns, and I wasn't sure if I should use "themself" or "themselves" as themself isn't a word, but plural also doesn't sound right. Then I realized a person who uses they/them probably cared less about this than I do.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    A lot of lit from the Black liberation movement uses "Black". I'd say that the majority of people I've seen capitalise Black have been Black themselves. That isn't to say it represents a majority of Black people, but also I don't think "what do the majority of this group think" is the best metric for determining what's right—e.g. a significant amount of women are figureheads of the anti-abortion movement, but that doesn't mean that they're right or not misogynistic.

    I wasn’t sure if I should use “themself” or “themselves”

    Different people who use they/them will have different preferences. If you don't know the person's preference, I doubt they'd care about which you go with, and if they did, they can reach out to you after the fact and ask you to change it or to use a different option going forward in the future.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    some do, some don't

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Dunno why you’d capitalize black unless it was at the start of a sentence. No one capitalizes white.

    Even if you’re in America not all black people are African Americans. Black ppl come from all over the world. (Duh.)

    Stupid designations about something that doesn’t matter, but they’re the best we’ve got.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 4 months ago

    This was a decision that I think the NY Times made to start capitalizing, and I've never understood why, but editors of books and articles all use it now, I saw it in a Stephen King story recently.

    Language does change, a book by the trans writer Jennifer Finney Boylan about her own transition published in 2001 used transgendered through the book simply because that's what was used then, and now it's proper to say transgender; Jenny's book was released for an anniversary edition and she addressed that in the foreword, that she had left it as written but with some hesitation that people would be offended, which I think would be silly because it was never a slur, it simply was the language then, and before that trans people were called transsexual, and that also wasn't a slur. So terminology can and does evolve, but it's just so random in the case of capitalization and nobody has ever explained why.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I swear no one else in the world manages to.be so obsessed with race than US... Come the fuck on...

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