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[–] 29 points 4 months ago

Don't worry, soon police will stop getting arrested for it.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    I think we should stop being so reductive towards pigs. They’re very clever, social creatures. The only label applicable to cops there would be “creatures” and even then I’m hesitant.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    It's like the dark knight taught us nothing

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    [–] 113 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Are they actually getting arrested?

    Or do they just go on unplanned, paid vacations?

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  • [–] 51 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    If they don't get arrested for premeditated murder, then I doubt they're actually getting in any trouble for planning the murder stalking.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    This close to election time, they're probably putting on a show — all charges will be quietly dropped after the first week of November.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    Yup.

    I was more than a little proud that my city had the balls to prosecute and imprison a killer cop. Our governor pardoned this bastard shortly after taking office and now the motherfucker's back on the street.

    It's all 100% performative.

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  • [–] 54 points 4 months ago

    Arrests don't mean anything.

    Are they getting convicted?

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I'm surprised they're being arrested for stalking, usually they don't face even the threat of consequences for that

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    Who could have seen that coming? /s

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Can someone post the full article in a comment? I tried workarounds to read the full article but nothing worked.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    This is all I could see in reading mode (a little more than where it faded to nothing)...

    Cops Keep Getting Arrested for Using Flock to Stalk People Jason Koebler 2 - 3 minutes

    For months during the summer of 2024, Jarmarus Brown, an Orange City, Florida police officer, ran his ex-girlfriend's license plate through the Flock automated license plate reader (ALPR) system lookup database at least 69 times. He searched for the license plate belonging to her mom at least 24 times, and searched for the license plate belonging to her dad at least 15 times. Brown’s searches were happening so often, and were so commonplace, that even one of his colleagues noticed Brown researching his ex-girlfriend's whereabouts while the law enforcement officers sat in their police cruisers, according to court records obtained by 404 Media.

    “While they were sitting there, Officer [Shadrich] King noticed Jarmarus was on the Flock system and a license plate reader image of [Brown’s ex-girlfriend] was on the screen,” a police affidavit about Brown’s behavior obtained by 404 Media reads. “Officer King said he mentioned to Jarmarus that he needed to stop running her vehicle in that system because he could get in trouble. Jarmarus responded saying that he knew that, and he was going to stop.” Flock’s automated license plate readers document every car that drives past them, creating a broad network of people’s movements around the country. Police can then look up license plates to learn where a specific car and, by extension, person, has traveled over time.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Those random, public space cameras with the little solar panel and the blue flashing light in parking lots and such.

    Accessing for crime data is supposedly what they’re used for, but some of these guys are accessing to stalk ex wives, girlfriends, or “love” interests.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Huh? I've never seen one of those.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    how are guys so unaware of these?

    google flock and youtube Benn Jordan

    good bit of info on the problems

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Not everyone lives where they're used.

    There's no need for sarcasm.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    There's a little bit of need. This is an article talking about the widespread abuse of the devices, someone descrubed the devices, saying "well i've never seen one" serves exactly zero good purpose

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You gotta look it up but they use ai to track people and the US government installed them in almost every major city. They're also really incredibly bad security wise, you can just walk up to them and connect and download the videos on any smart phone

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Oh wait until you hear about them partnering up with SignalTrace. When they capture your license plate, they then will capture any wireless signals associated with the license place (wifi, bluetooth, tracking tags, ect) and then can easily build a profile about you without needing your license plate in the future.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    When you think you’re above the law the temptation to break the law is real.

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    [–] 16 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's just a few bad apples though, right?

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    There's jokes in old movies about cops looking up license plates and looking through databases of people they shouldn't be all the time. I'm sure it's been going on the whole time they just have better toys now. unsettling.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    More than just better toys, they have toys with a mandatory audit trail, which is new and surprising to them.

    It's like when you see a Boomer claiming they didn't say something on TV, when it's 2026 and everything is digitally stored, unlike in the old days.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 5 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    strangely, your link doesn't show as a link. I had to right-click and open in new tab to get it to show the video.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's the client you're using. It displays correctly on LemmyUI.
    /° lemmy FE

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Well at least they're being arrested for it.

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    [–] 21 points 4 months ago

    I was too lazy to include images, links, and formatting but here ya go

    article textThere have been more than a dozen cases around the country where police use Flock to obsessively and illegally stalk people. Cops Keep Getting Arrested for Using Flock to Stalk People Image: Flock

    For months during the summer of 2024, Jarmarus Brown, an Orange City, Florida police officer, ran his ex-girlfriend's license plate through the Flock automated license plate reader (ALPR) system lookup database at least 69 times. He searched for the license plate belonging to her mom at least 24 times, and searched for the license plate belonging to her dad at least 15 times. Brown’s searches were happening so often, and were so commonplace, that even one of his colleagues noticed Brown researching his ex-girlfriend's whereabouts while the law enforcement officers sat in their police cruisers, according to court records obtained by 404 Media.

    “While they were sitting there, Officer [Shadrich] King noticed Jarmarus was on the Flock system and a license plate reader image of [Brown’s ex-girlfriend] was on the screen,” a police affidavit about Brown’s behavior obtained by 404 Media reads. “Officer King said he mentioned to Jarmarus that he needed to stop running her vehicle in that system because he could get in trouble. Jarmarus responded saying that he knew that, and he was going to stop.” Flock’s automated license plate readers document every car that drives past them, creating a broad network of people’s movements around the country. Police can then look up license plates to learn where a specific car and, by extension, person, has traveled over time.

    On another occasion, Brown told King that he believed his ex was lying about her whereabouts. She “told Jarmarus she was at her house with her mother, but Jarmarus knew for a fact she was not. When questioned by Officer King as to how he knew for a fact she was lying, Jarmarus said he used the Flock system and saw that her vehicle was elsewhere,” the affidavit reads. “Jarmarus then asked Officer King if he wanted to join him on a ‘stakeout’ to try to see where her vehicle was located.”

    According to Brown’s ex-girlfriend, while they were dating he would “constantly require [her] to either be on FaceTime with him or be on the phone with him, even while she was working […] Jarmarus would try to control aspects of [her] life, such as the amount of makeup she would wear and the length of her fingernails.” According to the affidavit, Brown’s stalking extended beyond license place lookups; at one point while they were dating, he put an Apple AirTag in her wallet. But the bulk of his surveillance came through Flock, the affidavit says, noting that he kept “randomly showing up at the places she was at.”

    The affidavit states Brown told investigators that “he would occasionally run her tag through Flock to track her whereabouts” because he believed she was lying to him. “It was dumb as hell on my end, emotions flowing, mind going,” he told investigators. The investigators ultimately determined Brown “knowingly and intentionally accessed the password protected computer systems, Flock and DAVID [a Florida DMV vehicle information database], to run the license plates of vehicles [she] frequently drove, for his own personal reasons. There was no work related, justifiable, reasons to do so, other than to track [her] whereabouts.” Brown was ultimately charged with stalking and hacking-related charges; he served one day in prison and was sentenced to five years of probation.

    Brown’s case was not a one-off. Local news reports from around the country repeatedly detail police abusing the Flock surveillance systemic order to stalk their partners or ex-partners. The contours of each story are much the same, with the police officer in question using their access to the system to repeatedly track a specific person over the course of weeks or months. The cases highlight the fact that Flock can be used to track the whereabouts of individual people, that police do not get a warrant in order to use the system, and that, if they have access to the system, they have the technical ability to look up any license plate they want for any reason they want. An April study by the civil rights group Institute for Justice found that at least 18 police officers have been caught around the country using Flock to stalk a romantic interest in the last few years; another database, called the ALPR Abuse Library, has documented 20 specific cases of “stalking/targeting” around the country.

    The known cases of police stalking are almost certainly a vast underreporting of the overall abuse, because they largely include only cases in which the behavior was so egregious that it led to police officers being fired, arrested, or both.

    Flock told 404 Media that it is “aware of 15 incidents of abuse, each surfaced because of the transparency and accountability features deliberately built into our platform.”

    “There are also 140,000 monthly active users of Flock, so the relatively rare instances of abuse, while obviously wrong and awful, are exactly that—rare,” a Flock spokesperson told 404 Media. “Humans are fallible; unlike most tools society provide law enforcement, Flock ensures that in the instances when our technology is misused, the evidence used to hold responsible parties accountable, is right there in our system. We also encourage all our customers to have a usage policy, regular training, and to implement our Audit Assistance tool, which proactively flags unintended use.” 💡 Do you know anything else about Flock? I would love to hear from you. Using a non-work device, you can message me securely on Signal at jason.404. Otherwise, send me an email at jason@404media.co.

    It is definitely the case that Flock’s audit tools have proven useful in holding police accountable, because journalists, activists, and concerned citizens from around the country have pored through Flock audit logs that they have obtained through public records requests to document abuse. But it is also the case that Flock has strenuously fought against lawsuits and potential regulations that are seeking to require police to get a warrant to use the system. And many cases of abuse have not been detected by police departments themselves but by those private citizens, journalists, and stalking victims who have found patterns of abuse in public records files they have obtained from their local police departments. In most cases of Flock-related stalking reviewed by 404 Media, the abuse occurred over the course of months or years, and the victims were subjected to dozens or hundreds of lookups.

    Other abuse cases have been discovered using the website HaveIBeenFlocked.com, a website that compiles Flock searches released via public records requests and turns them into a searchable database. Flock has repeatedly tried to get that website taken down, as we have previously reported.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    Expected police behavior abolish this dangerous gang.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Cops getting arrested? In the US!?

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    [–] 89 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe it wasn't a good idea to give a comprehensive surveillance tool to a right-wing paramilitary filled to the brim with violent narcissistic dickheads.

    Nobody could have seen this coming.

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago

    They keep NOT getting arrested too.

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I've heard that My Sheriff does this, too. Unfortunately the local DA/judge combo are the ones that demanded Trump's name be on the ballot in this state. And they have squashed multiple FOIA requests about Thurston county law enforcement. So good luck getting any traction on that here.

    Glad to see some "liberal" places still have court systems that will take on the creeper cops.

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    [–] 20 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Unless they are being convicted the arrest means nothing.

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