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[–] 269 points 4 months ago (20 children)

Dozens

the local news outlet SFGate estimated it was as many as 200

No mention of how many people are graduating

Reee it's difficult to estimate how big of a deal this was if the total number of participants isn't mentioned.

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  • [–] 120 points 4 months ago (12 children)
  • [–] 71 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    That's almost dozens of dozens.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    It's more than one and one third dozen dozens.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    How much is that in his majesty’s imperial units?

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  • [–] 58 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    On wiki it says there are about 1700 undergrads per class, so if it's that plus some grad students at graduation, 200 walking out could be maybe a tenth of the attendees. Sounds pretty noticeable.

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  • [–] 127 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Their ego is disgusting, every time they open their mouths they are met with disdain and they still don't get it.

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  • [–] 65 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    They don't need to. They're still making more each year than you or I will make in our entire lives.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    They make more than we’ll make in our lives before lunch. Every day.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    His current pay package is about $233m/yr. That's about $112k/day. I think your math might be off. Even if you make $7.25/hr, you'll make $112k in just over eight years. Still an absurd disparity, but not as far as you say.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Because this diverges from their day to day and how everyone else treats them. "Surely these students are the ones that are wrong".

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    I recently read Sarah Wynn-Williams' book about working at Facebork. Among many other revelations (like, her boss pressuring her to describe the blood coming out of her vagina from a post-birth hemorrhage - something so awful I wonder why in the hell I'm even telling this other story) she said everybody there constantly let Zuckerberg win board games. So in addition to everything else wrong with him, that pale-to-the-point-of-translucent tiny man gets to think he's amazingly good at board games.

    To her credit, Wynn-Williams kicked the shit out of him at Settlers of Cataan and then even pointed out to him where he fucked up.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    Poor people who act like that tend to suffer social consequences. Like getting their asses kicked.

    That sort of thing doesn't stop poor people from saying shit like that, but it does teach them to be careful about it. Some of them.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    They are probably aware but want to campaign in an effort to change public perception of AI. It will provide less resistance and more opportunities for their company as this gets forced through.

    Also, USA lives in a world where someone's word holds no accountability. All companies/media needs to do is keep pushing how great AI is and people will start to believe it. Facts to support their opinions aren't necessary. The blowback seen is probably from the minority of people who care about fact checking and accountability.

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  • [–] 89 points 4 months ago (23 children)

    And then some of those that walked out will work for Google also due to job market shit fuckery. What a time to be alive

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  • [–] 55 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    I've seen it happen! She... lives in Canada, you wouldn't know her

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (7 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    she ghosted me 😭. how is she doing?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    Well, she's dating someone new... but you wouldn't know him, he lives in England

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Not at Google, Amazon, or Meta. Some companies are still hiring new grads to make entry level engineers into their future senior engineers, but it's usually older companies.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ibm-expands-entry-level-hiring-165921396.html

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago*

    I love how they do that entire article and then immediately stick in a shill for fucking AI stock at the bottom.

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    I think this whole thing was written for people from r/WallStreetBets to masturbate to.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    Well if they have degrees in software engineering, certainly.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Where have you been the last few years lol, new CS grads aren't exactly doing well at the moment.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    They're still doing better than a lot of fields. I mean when you factor in compensation it's still one of the best fields to be in. Compare to a teacher, where you'll need a master's degree in most states and then you can expect a salary around 40k. Whereas with software, when you do find a job it's not unusual to start over 100k. But if you were willing to work for half that, I bet you'd find something quick.

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    For those who care, graduating class was 3,600.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Whatever happened to booing and jeering. Chase these goblins off their stage.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Many of these schools forbid stuff like this and will withhold diplomas and such. This i think it's far more effective. Hey up and walk the fuck out everyone sees you and sees them.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    stanford is one of those schools that do produce elitists, but less so than places like harvard or yale he speaks to wrong crowd, much jerry seinfeld did at darthmouth.

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    The kids are alright. (I don't use that word in the real world because it's improper spelling. It's a music reference, all right?)

    Fuck dumbass tech {m/b}illionaires.

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  • [+] -26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (30 children)

    yes but will any of them take a actual step in the right direction like degoogling and/or closing their Meta or Xitter accounts?

    Edit: After thinking about this yesterday I realized I was wrong. I am indeed frustrated with the inaction of the American people and their letting loose of a menace that is literally killing thousands around the world and just making everything miserable in its path. However, these graduates were actually doing something to fight power; I should have commended their walk out, not complain about shortcomings.

    Leaving the original comment up (but stroked through) so the thread below makes sense for those who come in later.

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  • [–] 97 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    They literally walked out of their Standford graduation. I'm sure they have the willpower to stop using those platforms.

    Why do you feel the need to be smug toward people that obviously share the same viewpoint as you?

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago* (6 children)

    They walked out of an extremely boring ceremony. That's nothing.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Do you not know anyone who's graduated from college? I know quite a few, and graduation was a big deal for all of them.

    Before you criticize, what have you sacrificed for the same cause?

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    I teach at a college. The ceremony is so Mom can come get a picture. There's a reason so many grad students don't go to theirs.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    A prestigious college that is internationally recognised or just like some backwater degree mill? The reason I'm asking is because you have such an utterly stupid take on the subject that I can't take you seriously.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    A major state university with 45,000 students.

    Choosing not to sit in a crowded room while people read names for 2 more hours so someone can hand you a fake placeholder diploma (the real one is mailed later) isn't some grand sacrifice.

    I like that it happened because it's embarrassing for Pichai. Bit there is no price to be paid by the students as far as I can tell.

    When Karl Rove spoke at my college when I was a student, I was part of the angry audience that lead to him ending his address 20 minutes early and leaving with his security detail forming a crowd around him. It was a cool moment, but it didn't cost me anything.

    And I think that's the bigger takeaway. It doesn't have to cost you anything to stand up to these assholes.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    It have to cost you anything to stand up to these assholes.

    Why? Why you gate keeping protesting? They didn't protest hard enough for you so you're not happy with it.

    That is an insane worldview you've got there, it's utterly reductive, "if you don't do everything exactly the way I want then you might as well not do anything at all" great messaging that, I'm sure you'll recruit loads of followers.

    You should go into politics, they love purity tests over there.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Even if they didn't, this was inestimably more impactful than a couple hundred people degoogling.

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  • [+] -13 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Not really. I mean, other than the headline, what consequences are stemming from this?

    People here seem to think a good burn is going to stop these monsters.

    I mean we can all say we hate AI but while OpenAI continues to have a billion active monthly users, they will never stop

    BTW I got that number from an article today saying OpenAI was "in trouble" because they are DOWN to that number as apparently Gemini is stealing all the users...

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    No huge consequences, you're right. Probably annoyed the CEO. But 200 people degoogling? Even people running metrics every day at Google wouldn't notice. It would be great if everyone degoogled, but until that trend starts getting much more traction than it has now it will have no measurable impact, and making more people think about how Google is evil is the only way to increase that traction.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    I imagine having a few billion dollars as your net worth raises your threshold to being annoyed by this kind of stuff a bit. Hopefully it did get the attention of whomever thought it was a good idea to invite an evil corporate overlord to an academic graduation though.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, I'll throw my experience in: I broke up with G for everything except YouTube and the Google Store, to finance pixel devices. That was a decade ago, and I have made no active attempts to get others to do the same, yet about half my friend circle have expressed interest in following me, with a couple taking steps on their own. One is actively researching alternative roms and used pixel phones, in the last week. Again, I've made no effort to push them - just mentioning it when it comes up in conversation.

    Imagine 200 people doing that, and making the tiniest effort to actively educate others. Domimo effect. Just look at what is happening right now with Windows v Linux. It only takes a few to get the ball rolling on meaningful change.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    And it’s not just 200 people in isolation. Their actions were viewed and reported on. Hopefully it gets people thinking about their Google usage. Also yewtu.be is a good alternative to YouTube by the way, so is FreeTube, which at least makes you one step removed from YouTube and using a VPN. I haven’t used Google products willingly in years.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    But 200 people degoogling?

    Well that was not my point... my point is that if a significant number of the people that allegedly hate AI/Google/BigCorpo were to actively get rid of their products, there would be an impact.

    You are right that 200 is nothing but the real problem, IMO, is that people LOVE the show but not the action. I read hundreds of posts everywhere about how we must fight yet nobody seems to want to get off their chairs

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    These people literally got off their chairs during their college graduation from a prestigious university to protest the shit Google is doing!

    Each person who did that made a bigger impact, and probably a bigger sacrifice, than a person who degoogled. That was my point.

    Ultimately we need people to degoogle, but until way more people pay attention to why they should, it will remain a niche thing.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    How do you know they haven't already?

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  • [+] -12 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    I don't, which is why I posted my comment as a question.

    I can tell you I doubt it since I lost track of how many people (here for example) complain bitterly about the big tech companies and still hold active accounts in all of them seemingly unable to stop giving those companies "they hate" all the power they want

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (5 children)
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    Sometimes a question is just a question... not a conspiracy theory

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    The people whom you're posing the question to (other Lemmy users) aren't in any position to answer the question, and you (should) know that. Therefore, your "question" wasn't asked in good faith and was instead merely a rhetorical tool used to "present false or distorted claims by framing them as questions."

    Yes, this tactic is often used by conspiracy theorists, but they don't have a monopoly on it, as you so clearly demonstrated.

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  • [+] -6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The people whom you’re posing the question to (other Lemmy users) aren’t in any position to answer the question, and you (should) know that. Therefore, your “question” wasn’t asked in good faith and was instead merely a rhetorical tool used to “present false or distorted claims by framing them as questions.”

    Since you cannot possibly know what is going on in my head, you are basically just projecting your own intentions here

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Well, it's highly unlikely that any of them are here, so I don't know why you're asking us then.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Same reason I post anything here, to get some feedback.

    I have no proof and zero reason to think the people that reply to my woodworking questions know more than I do, but that is the leap of faith we all do in social media, no?

    So far, one person replied to me with some good points, others just didn't like my post and threw a tantrum. I try to ignore the tantrums and learn from the good posts to the best of my abilities.

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