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Live updates: Trump says Iran will ‘pay the price’ for taking too long to negotiate | CNN (www.cnn.com)
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[–] 54 points 5 months ago* (16 children)

They're taking so long because they know Trump won't follow through on his threats. More threats aren't going to make them hurry up.

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  • [–] 39 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    More accurately they know trump won't follow through on the negotiations. Trump says he's going to bomb you, there's a 50/50 chance he will bomb you. Trump says he's going to talk peacefully, there's a 100% chance either the US or Isreal is going to be bombing durring or before the negotiations and during whatever cease fire is negotiated.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    How fucking funny would it be if we wake up tomorrow and Iran has drone struck the white house, similar to how Ukraine did with Russia last year?

    That would be the most unexpected and hilarious ending to Trump I can think of.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    That would be absolutely terrible.

    Currently, the general US sentiment seems to be that Trump is an internal problem, that you have to deal with.

    An attack on the White House would not be seen as an attack against Trump, it would be seen as an attack against the nation as a whole.

    We have an example of this, look at the approval rating of Bush before and after 9/11, they surged from just barely over 50% to above 90% instantly.

    Now, I don't expect this huge of a jump with Trump, but I there would absolutely be a huge jump in Trump's approval ratings after a foreign attack on the White House.

    Plenty of people would see it as their duty to support the president in those times.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    For the 30% of lead poisoned weirdos, maybe.

    During the theater run of Independence Day, people in the theater often cheered when the white house was destroyed.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Pretty sure that was a movie, though

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    it would be seen as an attack against the nation as a whole.

    So? USA is also absolutely attacking Iran as a nation as a whole. USA has set the precedence that Iran is absolutely allowed and even justified in doing this. And I for one would not lift a finger to help USA, but will continue to boycott American products.
    USA created this mess together with Israel, and USA shouldn't come fucking crying to Europe if the White House is bombed!!
    Like USA did when Iran closed the Hormuz Strait. 😡
    Iran is clearly the victim here. Iran may be a shitty country, but on the international scene USA is worse.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I mean, in the hypothetical example I believe the implication was not one that trump survived. So a better analogy would be turning point USA. Of which yeah general like and "honoring" of charlie certainly went up. But on the whole the influence of turning point USA seems to be less. As far as the overall, I'm not sure how to really judge how that would go in this hypothetical would b long term.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    We live in the shit timeline, we don't get nice things like that. We get undying Trump who lives like another 40 years as president and bullets fly around him like that stupid movie Wanted...

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    I'm guessing you are thinking about operation spiderweb, where Ukraine released drones deep inside Russia from Russian registered trucks, and took out several fighter jets and very valuable AWACS.
    Yes such an attack on white house taking out Trump would be hilarious, and absolutely justified karma as deserved, considering USA did the same to Iranian politicians.
    I would worry however what the response to such an action would be?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Trump won’t follow through on his threats.

    He "won't" because he can't, but I bet Trump wants to nuke Iran if necessary, he has no moral boundaries and doesn't give a shit about the human suffering he is causing.
    His only fear is about the possible consequences to himself, and maybe he has even been actively prevented from doing it?

    My guess is that Trump absolutely wants to follow through, but he can't. Partly because congress won't allow it, but there may be other reasons, like the military may have finally refused an illegal order?

    Trump is mentally a toddler, and he will go as far as he can, until someone stops him.

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    • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Donald Trump is a pedophile rapist pile of shit.

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    • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I hope America is ready to pay the price when the economic shock really hits.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2026/5/21/the-crises-caused-by-the-iran-war-will-hit-the-world-in-four-waves

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    Sorry, but short attention spans combined with deliberately minimized education levels will ensure that not only are most Americans not ready, but that they will blame whoever has the misfortune to be in charge when the aftereffects of everything Trump has done finally firmly take hold. My fellow Americans morons haven't a clue what "looking at the big picture" means.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's going to hit everyone, not just us.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    To my knowledge, America is the only country that has yet to undeniably experience economic shock from this war. The rest of the world is already suffering from America's imperialism. The worse Americans are seeing is slightly inflated gas and goods pricing, which can be brushed off as usual economic waves.

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    • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    this strategy seems to have worked well for Greenland and Canada. Grey rocking at an International scale.

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    [–] 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    They are holding all the cards — we shall pay the price.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Pretty sure we are already paying 'the price'.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Agreed. But there will be more that we haven’t felt yet, I’m sure.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Per the article, I suspect you are right. I'm in a uniquely fortunate position, in that I live in a small town, and mostly use a bike for transport. All the same, I like to eat food and am not realistically able to grow all I consume. And I need to replace bike parts now and again. At some point the computer in front of me will need replacement, etc, etc. Sigh.

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    • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Oh time for the thinly veiled nuclear threats again because it's Wednesday?

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    [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Oh man they better hurry up before Trump does something crazy… like give Iran an even better deal.

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    [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    There is no negotiation. Iran gave their demands and Trump the narcissist fuckup will never take an L an give those demands.

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    [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    He totally means it this time guys.

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    [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Tough talk from Donald Donkeybrains.

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    [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Bet you a gallon of gas that it’s not going to happen.

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    [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Like Mexico paid for the wall?

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    [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    [ X ] DOUBT

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    [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Wrong as always , the big bill is for the average american

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    [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    More terror attacks by the USA. Non-targeted bombing campaigns or operations focused on civilians has never won a war but it has spread misery far and wide. The people leading the war are either out of range or in a bunker deep enough that it might as well be on the other side of the planet. Even if you "glass" major cities, that's not where the missiles are located.

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    [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Why are his eyes so goddamned bloodshot all the time?

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    • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Iran has no reason to suspect the USA will ever hold up a deal with the dementia addled moldy orange much less GQP's next dictator. As well I don't think the USA military is capable of trying to fight an outright war with even a modestly equipped foe. Iran isn't the Taliban.

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    [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Someone blow his fucking brains out already.

    Go on anarchists. Do actual shit for a change.

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