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[–] 86 points 5 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Having watched the linked video and its other part ages ago and again more recently, my chief question is always the same. Who begins the process? Given that the captain is just a crew member hired like the rest, who is the one that begins the recruiting process? Without covering that, it almost feels like piracy is caused by random, persuasive ships floating into port. Have I just missed that info every single time?

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  • [–] 65 points 5 months ago

    Sometimes pirate crews started as mutineers. A merchant or navy ship has a captain that severely mistreats his crew. Eventually they get sick of him and maroon him somewhere or throw him overboard. At that point, everyone on that ship has probably already committed a capital offense (especially if it's a navy ship), so they literally have nothing to lose by becoming pirates at that point. If they're ever caught, they're already dead. Initially on the boat are just the folks who happened to be there at the time of the mutiny. But some filtering happens over time. Those who don't actually want to be pirates eventually slink off at one port stop or another. And new recruits are found via quiet conversations in port taverns. A lot of recruiting probably happens through personal contacts, "oh, we're going to port X? Why I have a cousin there that might be interested!"

    Also, often pirate ships started off as privateers. A privateer is just like a pirate, except legal. Let's say Britain and France are at war. Britain issues letters of marque to any ship with captain and crew willing to raid French shipping. This is a way for the British crown to target French shipping at a fraction of the cost of having the Royal Navy do it themselves. (It's the Age of Sale equivalent of German U-boats raiding British shipping during WW2.) If such a privateer is caught by the French, they'll still be treated like pirates. But as far as the British are concerned, what they're doing is completely legal. They can go steal a French and ship then sail into any British port and unload their plunder. It's all completely legal and a culturally accepted part of warfare. As long as the captain had their official letter of marque, the harbormaster in any British port would let them participate freely and openly. As far as how these privateers got going? Simple capitalism. Some people with cash to invest would invest in a boat and crew, and attempt to make a profit from the conflict.

    And that's all well and good, except what happens when the war ends? Those letters of marque were only good during wartime. And privateers don't get military retirement benefits. There's no pension or these folks. (Not even whatever pitiful equivalent existed for Navy sailors at the time.) Men who were risking their lives sailing the seas, plundering commerce in Britain's name? Well they're now all out of a job. And even if what they did was legal, it still carried a stigma. Job prospects may be quite poor for a former privateer, and it certainly won't be as lucrative. So, quite predictably, after the wars ended, often times the privateers just kept doing what they were good at. So many pirates were simply privateers that had been cut loose by their respective governments.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I'd be OK with it if it wasn't for all the murder. I'm not really down with that.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

    I answered an ad like this posted by Elcid Barrett back in Nova Scotia. Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett's privateers.

    I don't know that I'd recommend the career.

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I used to be a farmer and I made a living fine
    I had a little stretch of land along the CP line
    But times were tough and though I tried, the money wasn't there
    'Til bankers came and took my land and told me "Fair is fair."

    I looked for every kind of job, the answer always "no."
    "Hire you now?" they'd laugh and say, "We just let forty go."
    The government, it promised me a measly little sum
    But I've got too much pride to end up just another bum.

    But I thought, who gives a damn if all the jobs are gone.
    I'm gonna be a pirate on the river Saskatchewan!

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Can I bring my pet parrot ?

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    You also kinda need to be able to hoist sails, tie knots, swab decks, carry heavy loads, wield a cutlass effectively, and all sorts of other things...

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Eating rotten food is also important. Do it in the dark so you can't see what garbage you are eating...

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Happy cake day! Sorry we're all out of rum!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Why are we always out of rum?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I see myself as more a manager type. Could I just tell everybody else what to do?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    So you want to be first mate, do ye? Arrr... well... aye.

    But first ye must pass a test. Wear an eye patch over each eye and then walk a tightrope from the poop deck to the crows nest. To prove your leadership skills!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Also sleep in a poorly ventilated room, in a tiny hammock, with 50 other men. Don't worry, you'd probably sleep well because you'd be so exhausted from the crushing physical labour. You'd be eating simple, unflavoured bread / crackers that are so hard that they need to be dunked in water for several minutes so they don't break your teeth. And, speaking of teeth, your new job does come with healthcare, but that's mostly tooth pulling and limb amputations. Anything else and you just need to suck it up. No sick days either, you show up for your shifts, 12+ hours a day, 7 days a week. Sickness is probably pretty common. 50 men sleeping in the same crowded, airless room. No washing, no soap. Toilets are simply a plank with a hole above the ocean. No toilet paper either.

    But, you do get to sing sea shanties.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The fact that there's a performance based profit share is a huge draw

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I know this is a shit post, but you really can voluteer to sail the world with the Nao Santa María,

    https://www.fundacionnaovictoria.org/

    I've been on it a while back, beautiful ship.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    A [*squints*] ~20 gun frigate with a crew of only 30-50? That's sounds like a startup nightmare. You'd probably want double that to be comfortable.

    "Get in on the ground floor of our fast paced, dynamic environment! Must be self starter willing to work watch-on-watch for the team. No sick days."

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    "You know how you normally work dog watches, 4 hours on, 4 hours off? Yeah... Well half the crew quit."

    "As a result we're redistributing their watches to the remaining crew from now on. As a result, you can rest when we're in port"

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    That musical instrument list is a joke! No squeeze boxes? No woodwind? No percussion?

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    Nice try IDF

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    It's like a startup

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Is alcohol tolerance required?

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    One day when the toungin' is done, we'll take our leave and go.

    https://youtu.be/UgsurPg9Ckw?is=f6uoQN0J7Choy_ow

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Objectively better than my current job

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    consults wellerman lyrics

    hard pass

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    you forgot to mention the hurdy gurdy

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I can’t play any of those instruments but I know how to make hard tack edible and can reef a sail.

    I’ve also got a copy of Lobscouse and Spotted Dog for making authentic sailor meals

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    🎶 What will you do with a drunken sailor, what will you do with a drunken sailor? 🎶

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Honestly, rope blisters don't seem as bad as what I'm working with rn.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    While I love the joking in the comments section, I can't help but feel a bit sad.

    I'd give almost anything for another sea going posting.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    sounds like a great job, hows vacation looking?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    How do you even make the bass stay upright? Do you have to freeze it with its mouth open?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    oh hell yeah, I play upright bass

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Do you have a need for programmers?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I'd cut off my leg to attach a peg for the opportunity to be a pirate over my current job

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Men wanted for hazardous journey. Low wages, bitter cold, long hours of complete darkness. Safe return doubtful. Honour and recognition in event of success.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I hate my job, but at least I don't have all the scars in my body unheal and open up.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    No concertina? It's like the piratey-est instrument!

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The concertina has historically been a favorite instrument among people who travel often (due to its small and compact size), leading it to be a common instrument among soldiers, sailors, and cowboys. One was even brought aboard Robert Peary's 1891 expedition of the Greenland Arctic. Despite the pop-culture association of the concertina with the Golden Age of Piracy, the concertina was invented approximately 100 years after the heyday of piracy in the North Atlantic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concertina

    Huh neat.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Despite the pop-culture association of the concertina with the Golden Age of Piracy, the concertina was invented approximately 100 years after the heyday of piracy in the North Atlantic.

    Shiver me timbers. Me whole worldview be built on a lie.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I'm learning the ukelele, does that count?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I mean I currently work part time at a scuba shop, so I guess I’m at least partially qualified.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    If we have a right to choose the captain I'm sold.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Room and board? Sign me up

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  • I could play a cajon, would that work?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Pillaging and killing people without much repercussions is maybe a good point.

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