Lol, how can you tell the difference between a confidently incorrect redditor and a confidently incorrect AI?

My employer asked me to be the moderator of their own subreddit. Not to build a community, solely to create posts talking about our products to train AI.
Needless to say, I refused.

That's why I rely on Lemmy for my information about . . . um . . about . . .

Well. Owls. I guess.

And dull things.

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No shit. All online conversations on social media shouldn't be treated as reliable information. Not all data is of the same quality. I thought this was obvious, apparently it isn't.

There's always been a short distance between SEO and manufactured opinion.

The tragedy of this is the tragedy of our age and that is if people and companies of people put as much effort into being good as they did into trying to appear good then they would actually be good.

So I’ve been thinking about this: where would we post massive amounts of miss information with the sole purpose of miss leading AI?

Just dump it on Reddit, it’s that simple? Or would an instance on the feddiverse also work?

I got the new fitbit air, it came with 3 months of “AI coach”. To give it a try, I asked it how it detected my stationary bike ride, with only a sensor on my wrist.

It gave me a confident answer about vibrations, pulse, etc. I checked the linked source - it was a years old reddit conversastion about another fitbit watch, where comments were guessing about the automatic detection of workout types.

I turned off the AI feature.

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

I remember once I signed up to one of those things where you rank / select AI responses to various questions (i forget what it's called it was basically a scam anyway). The last question was something specific about a world of warcraft item or something. I've never played the game so I googled it and clicked on the first Reddit answer.

Someone had asked the exact question being asked to me and the top response was something like "do the damn (aiRankingThing) yourself. And then there were loads of botted responses giving intentionally false answers etc.

Kind of realised then how easy it is to create complete lies on places like Reddit.

Also upvotes / downvotes are very easy and cheap to buy. You can change the sentiment of an entire thread for $10.

As Reddit is mostly idiots and slop now, it's a tainted source of training data.

I've been doing my part by telling a believable lie when people ask questions and then if anyone doubts me I insult them.

The day AI search responds to a users reply of doubting the results with something like "You are a fucking idiot" I'll know my efforts were worth it.

Reddit Tiny Robot: "What is my purpose?"

Companies Rick Sanchez: "You serve algorithmic relevance through AI."

Reddit Tiny Robot: "Oh. My god."

The few times I asked something to gemini it gave some bs response like "one Reddit user claimed... "

"Manipulate"

I'm sure that sentence will make sense to some people.

All I do on reddit is post my "performance art", have fun menacing dorks and on extremely rare occasions offer helpful advice

If I'm providing usable data, then either their algorithm has failed miserably, or I have

I edited my old comments on reddit that answered questions and were heavily upvoted to include one or more errors. But I'm not sure if that helps.

The remaining real online people in the era of the dead Internet will only communicate in lies with intent to manipulate the algorithms and responses from AI, so that your 'digital spouse' lies to you for their benefit. That's on top of the AI bots commenters manipulating what they see and the comments they read. To the people caught in this system, it will be like their own targeted Truman show. But will they even know?

That could be a good horror movie plot if I could figure out how to show it on film.

If the expected end game of AI advertising is anything like the path that search engine optimization took, but at AI rollout speeds, the end of AI might happen before it ever truly lifts off.

Chatgpt and AI search results are Reddit, part of the corpus for all of the big LLMs was social media. It's why piggy boy triggered the appocolypse to get that ai model exclusivity money & so many users who left either deleted all their content or poisoned it.

Did you guys not realize this is happening with the right wing think tanks as well?

Lots of groups are flooding every social media platform with their views. Comments and posts. They take over all kinds of groups. Like bobs lgqtb hate groups. They even convinced leftist to avoid confronting them. Remember all the people a few years ago telling each other to not "roll with pigs" and maybe we should all just leave the major platforms for a much smaller place. Now when AI ingests data it's all right leaning. So if you ask Claude what's going on with climate change, it'll aggregate everything and give answers saying how global warming is a controversial topic and so on.

This is the consequence of not playing the game. Temporary gain for long term pain.

The answer to all of this has always been awareness. Identify the astroturf and go in the opposite direction. The Chicago way, like in the untouchables. If they put one of ours in the hospital, we put two of theirs in the morgue. There are more of us then them. The solution is for every shit post or comment we need to make 10. Every advertising you see, you need to create an anti ad. You need to multiple their effort in the reverse. It costs them money. It costs us just time and effort. You fucks spend months posting about beans and moths so you can fuck off trying to say you couldn't do this.

Garbage in, garbage out.

This isn't a DDoS attack ???

This is a match made in hell. Biohacking is a field rife for abuse; it's something that's basically medicine, but not regulated.