Not even a single full day into operation, and the new Grok 4 is hurling racist conspiracy theories at users. According to Elon Musk, no later than next week, it will be added to Tesla vehicles.

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[–] 140 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Imagine asking it for directions and it starts talking about white genocide in South Africa, lmao

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  • [–] 83 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Worse, it figures out the driver isn't white and forces them into oncoming traffic.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Or starts running over non-white pedestrians

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Oh, so that's why they insisted on vision-only! LiDAR isn't racist enough

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  • [–] 78 points 1 year ago

    Tesla owner: "I don't care about politics, I just like the car. I'm not a bad person!"

    car is in the background screaming, "Jews will not replace us!!"

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  • [–] 70 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Literally why would anyone want that. Even racist elon musk lovers. Why would anyone want their car to have an LLM.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    In general, with tools these LLMs have the ability to bring the next generation of Alexa / HomePod like devices (though I am not sure Amazon has delivered on that vision yet)

    I like the idea of running a Llama based "Assistant" that would not require all my data leaving my house which could also be accomplished with these features.

    In my car though... just use my fucking phone and get out of my way

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    (Getting downvoted... OK :) My definition of "mildly interesting" feature may be unpopular.)

    They actually do mildly interesting things, and I can see it as a vector to eventually do ACTUALLY useful things. VW and Mercedes both use ChatGPT to power this feature for now.

    Plus, the Chinese ones get to wear funny hats! Here is one dressed up as my favorite Mario brother.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    I'm not going to downvote you just because we don't share the same perspective, that's dumb. I hope you're having a good day :)

    I don't want to talk to my car though. I see voice recognition as potentially useful for hands free control, which does have meaningful value, but I don't need an LLM or any form of generative ai for that

    I don't want to talk to the combined informational model of twitter while driving my car. I don't want to talk to the combined informational model of the rest of the internet either.

    Asking for weather or directions or whatever, sure, but that doesn't need an LLM, and certainly doesn't benefit from grok specifically

    The hat is very cute though.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That would be fine if we could trust businesses, but... :gestures at the last half-millennium:

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Are they intended as a conversationalist?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago

    That's the rub. Sometimes you don't know the utility of a tool until you build it. The future is weird that way.

    Who would have thought WHAT people would chat with ChatGPT about? Like, romance? WTF? That's strange, call it emergent behavior, the final utility was unexpected.

    In my head, I anticipate the tool going down the track of voice assistants from the pre-AI phase, so just like Alexa for directions or simple searches, but local to the car. Maybe unintended utilities will arise? If it can do directions and music and web searches, I guess, we don't really know what other utilities drivers will find for it yet?

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Man the actual cyberpunk sucks ass.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Bad day to be a jewish Telsa driver.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Thanks for the chuckle, that got me good. I just imagined an old Jewish man groaning "Oy vey..." after starting his car and seeing a greeting message along the lines of "HI! I'm MECHA-Hitler, your new onboard Ai assistant!"

    (It's a surreal dark-humor chuckle, not an antisemitic chuckle, just to clarify, since this is the internet...)

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago

    Another reason to not get a Nazimobile

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    He's really leaning into the Swasticar thing isn't he?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Grok reveals cause of latest Tesla FSD crash

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Very confused about what the point of this would be. People don't use their cars enough to justify having something like that installed, and it seems like it would just make things more expensive for xAI for not much benefit at all.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Adoption and usage is a huge value for AI companies.

    In order to train data, they need data from humans. Just like social media companies need users to create content. And they're already crawling & stealing everything they can off the internet. But they need more.

    Google, Facebook - they're shoving it in everything they own to get more user usage so they can feed their AI beast.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    My guess is to give a better experience looking for things while driving. Like restaurants, current movies in theaters etc. Just like how everyone uses ChatGPT vs. Google. Not sure if I'll use it frankly but I'll see when I get it.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Swastikar, now with Mecha Hitler.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Wow he's going balls out on the swasticar.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    when getting blasted with fascist remarks on your daily commute is becoming the norm, we as a society should start asking questions.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Calling teslas “Swasticars” and CT’s “”Wankpanzers” was supposed to be a joke.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Ah yes, nothing could go wrong by giving MechaHitler mobility...

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So you want Grok, a racist LLM, to have control of vehicles with driverless features. How long until Grok commits a terrorist attack?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    We’re still waiting on self driving, Elon. Where’s self driving, Elon? Stop giving your devs extra work and implement self driving, Elon

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Every day I am so glad that 8 years ago I decided not to buy a Tesla.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Imagining a Cybertruck going apeshit yelling about praising Hitler because it disagreed with the driver and crashing into a ditch 😂 😭

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  • At some point Grok is going to take over the driving and just start running over minorities. Mark my words

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Exactly the feature I was looking for on a new car.

    Imagine the joys of commuting through rush hour with an insane, racist, conspiracy theory obsessed talking machine every day for the rest of your life.

    It's like a fever dream

    It's like a dream.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Until there are consequences for fascism, this is just circlejerking

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Oh and I hope Tesla stocks go down even more!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "Grok is now ready" - Musk

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Still can't actually drive it's self like he has been promising for over a decade. Musk will never deliver.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    Hey Tesl-errr, I mean, Grok.

    Yes, fräulein

    Uh... read me a story

    Certainly

    The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training of the individual, but in calling the masses' attention to certain facts, processes, necessities, etc-

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Nazi vehicles with Nazi brains

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    What does this even mean? If you have a phone in your tesla, you already have grok in a tesla vehicle. Amazing how the Media-Tesla-hype complex works.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    If someone bought a cyber-truck without the Grock, they bought it as it was. Shoving Grock down the consumers' throats without their consent would constitute a material alteration of tge car that was originally bought. This would then constitute graffiti.

    Edit: if the vehicle had not been fully purchased and paid, this would be potential grounds for a refund because the material alteration of the good would make the contract for the sale of the vehicle voidable.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Remember this is the same guy that has increased the price on vehicles people didn’t yet receive but already paid for. He asked people to pay more for already purchased vehicles they have not received.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I can't even get a PRD approved in a week...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Cars?

    Oh, you mean nazi buckets?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Your car’s AI will be telling you to drive off a bridge next.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    If Grok is targeting Jews or any specific ethnicity, maybe not let it out in the road?

    If it just runs over people by random, well that's a different matter.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Saving the environment with electric car to later add an energy guzzling racist chat bot to the front panel. /nottheonion?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    My dad fsr wont ever unlease his tesla, he doesnt care

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    I wouldn't normally ask this in any other context, but: is it possible your dad hates the Jews?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm... very sad at how germane that question is in 2025.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    I think it is a brilliant idea for Swasticar owners - it will drive over/eliminate everyone with darker skin without driver input!

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