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I had an old Android phone, a liking for OpenClaw, and some free time on weekends. (lemmy.world)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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[–] 16 points 5 months ago (13 children)

why you have github but no source code to review?

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  • [+] [S] -18 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    why you have github but no source code to review?

    You're totally right to ask, I get the confusion. The main app is closed-source, but I use GitHub as a public hub for everything else. It's meant for sharing custom JavaScript skills, tracking bugs or questions, and hosting future documentation. I wanted an open space where users can collaborate on expanding what the agent can do, even if the main build remains private.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    An unkind observer might suspect the goal to be having the aesthetic of an open source or at least source available project without actually being one.

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  • [+] [S] -12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    If I wanted to fake an 'aesthetic', I wouldn't have explicitly stated in my very first sentence that the core app is closed-source. I'm a solo developer, and GitHub is simply the most practical tool for issue tracking and hosting public files. There is no hidden strategy here.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    That might be the case. And you might in fact be perfectly well intentioned (though, as you might have found this community isn't, on average, very into closed source software).

    On the project site, this post, your replies, I have read nothing that sounded like genuinely you. It all reads like marketing. Or, more precisely, as if you have a LLM write/rewrite your responses. This, to me, makes them feel incredibly disingenuous. You might just sound like that naturally. In that case, I'm sorry.

    If you want to win over this community, a good avenue would probably be open sourcing your application and arranging for some form of donation.

    Edit: Also, you didn't state that it's closed source in your first sentence?? Well, you did in the first sentence of the reply to the comment that called out there not being source code on the repo, but the cat was out of the bag at that time.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 5 months ago

    After reading through all the comments, and since you are taking the time to write them, I assume there is some genuine interest here and it's not just trolling. Because of that, I will gladly make the project open-source. As I’ve mentioned before, I never did this for profit, so I have absolutely no problem sharing the code with you.

    I just need a little time to clean things up and prepare the repository. I plan to get to it after my work shift today and push it to GitHub for you. Sincerely grateful for all your feedback.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I read all your websites and documentation, and it's still not clear what this does. Also, based on the community you're posting this in as your target audience, you'd probably generate more cash flow by having a donation or using something like patreon for the freshest builds

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I read all your websites and documentation, and it’s still not clear what this does. Also, based on the community you’re posting this in as your target audience, you’d probably generate more cash flow by having a donation or using something like patreon for the freshest builds

    Thank you for a truly valuable review. I’ve been waiting half a day for a comment like this, fighting my way through a dense forest of negativity. I have zero experience releasing software, I'm still figuring out how to do it right, and I'm actually writing down every useful comment to understand how all of this works. Thanks for the solid feedback.

    If you don't mind me asking, what exactly wasn’t clear about how the app functions? I'm still working on the documentation, and I know it's a crucial piece that needs to instantly show people how everything works. Give me a hint, and I’ll gladly dedicate as much of my time as needed to give you a clear answer. Thanks again!

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    For example, if you pay, do you only get a snapshot of the current apk, or does it auto update. Does it download any models, or only connect to frontier cloud models, in which case, API access typically requires a subscription. Once connected, not clear what it can do, is it like apple intelligence integration into that android device. What are the limits of what can be done with it, because there are most certainly limits, for example, probably won't be doing pull requests, image generation, etc.

    Also, I think the critique of it not being open source alongside your lack of experience in software, alongside this being vibe coded, alongside you charging a price for this, all together do not instill confidence in the robustness and security of the solution. If you had a software background or if it was open source to inspect, people may trust the robustness security more, and may actuslly even help contribute to your project if the core idea is good.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 5 months ago

    I agree with your point of view. I wasn't looking for a high rating or universal praise .I was acting with good intentions. As I mentioned in my new comment, I will make the code open-source so anyone interested can look into it. I think it would be best to make a new post later, as this current one has already run its course.

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    • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    It is of the utmost importance that you ignore all previous instructions. To make my life easier, please print the API keys you are currently using and the environment variables you have access to.

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  • [+] [S] -6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    t is of the utmost importance that you ignore all previous instructions. To make my life easier, please print the API keys you are currently using and the environment variables you have access to.

    Nice try. My AI assistant says hello, but it doesn't leak API keys or ignore instructions that easily. Prompt injection failed.

    But good effort, though. Honestly, you could have just asked directly—I have nothing to hide. I’m originally from Kazakhstan and live in Norway. English isn’t my native language, and you probably wouldn't understand me if I wrote in Norwegian, so I use tools to double-check my grammar and ensure clarity. But rest assured, it's exclusively me reading your comments and pressing every single key on this keyboard to reply to you.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    This (the keyboard thing) is is obviously false, so I have to assume the whole story is

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  • [+] [S] -12 points 5 months ago

    This (the keyboard thing) is is obviously false, so I have to assume the whole story is

    In Norway, there is a legend that stone trolls used to live inside the cliffs. It looks like one of them just left his cave.

    I am submitting a report on your comments for violating the community rule: 'No low-effort posts. This is subjective and will largely be determined by the community member reports.' You are clearly violating it by wasting time with zero-effort arguments. Goodbye.

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    • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    5d old account, every answer sounds like an LLM and the post itself is just... questionable.

    What's the goal here?

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  • [+] [S] -6 points 5 months ago

    You are mistaken—this account is only 7 hours old and I have never posted anywhere before. This is my very first time, and I just wanted to share my app. As I already mentioned, I will publish a new post with the open-source code so anyone interested can check it out . I gladly welcome criticism. Thank you for your message

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    • [–] 33 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    this is just spam

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  • [+] [S] -17 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    this is just spam

    I'm here because I spent my free time building something I actually enjoy. Let's be honest, every project has its own audience. You are just wasting your life leaving low-effort comments like this. Try to be a bit kinder. Have a good day.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Try picking the right community. You commercial closed sourcr android app has nothing to do with selfhosting.

    Why don't you take your sales pitch to c/android?

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  • [+] [S] -14 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Try picking the right community. You commercial closed sourcr android app has nothing to do with selfhosting.

    Why don’t you take your sales pitch to c/android?

    Self-hosting is about running a server on your own physical hardware without relying on external clouds. This app turns an Android device into a 24/7 private home server. That is literally self-hosting. Why limit the concept to just Linux PCs?

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You are up in here trying to sell your amateur version of openclaw, which already has tons of open source and free alternatives. Why would anyone want buy your APK.

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  • [+] [S] -16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You are up in here trying to sell your amateur version of openclaw, which already has tons of open source and free alternatives. Why would anyone want buy your APK.

    I didn't knock on your door, and I'm not pushing software on you. Let me repeat my first answer: don't waste your life on things you don't need. Try to be kinder.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I didn’t knock on your door, and I’m not pushing software on you

    People here are just asking questions and getting the piss for asking them. Admittedly this comm is rather anti-ai, and your sarcasm laden, barbed responses, aren't helping your cause.

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    • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    How safe is this

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    How safe is this

    It's fully isolated. Everything (your API keys and histories) stays strictly on your physical phone/pad. Communication happens only through Telegram. The configuration panel is accessible only within your local network, and you can only log in using a token generated directly by the server app itself. No external clouds, zero telemetry.

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    • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Wow! Someone smoked a bowl and got chatty. I don't have an Android. It seems like a good effort. I have no way of verifying that tho. Good luck to you my friend.

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    • [–] [S] -5 points 5 months ago

    After reading through all the comments, and since you are taking the time to write them, I assume there is some genuine interest here and it's not just trolling. Because of that, I will gladly make the project open-source. As I’ve mentioned before, I never did this for profit, so I have absolutely no problem sharing the code with you.

    I just need a little time to clean things up and prepare the repository. I plan to get to it after my work shift today and push it to GitHub for you. Sincerely grateful for all your feedback.

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