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[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I mean, this video is targeting people who are still entangled with Google. If you aren't, there isn't much point in watching it, right?

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[–] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 28 points 5 months ago (4 children)

If all the good content is still there, people will stay there. Open and ethical platforms need to have content to become an alternative. I hope this content is hosted on PeerTube and other platforms as well.

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[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago

Oh for sure. I hope he and others double post to better platforms so they can catch up as well.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

They need to solve paying creators and also what happens when if they get big. How do they scale. Hate YouTube all you want it costs a lot of money to run it and I don't see federated service replacing it. Also the fact everything us still up there I see that being hard in federation.

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[–] trilobite@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago

This will never happen. Most good channel on YT are content creators that make a living on their content. PeerTube will always be a grain of sand on the beach. Sadly ...

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Step 2) Get a proper email where you aren’t the product.

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago*

Step 3: Stop using android unless it's Graphene or something like it that's de-googled. Because a lot of Google's tracking is done through the play store.

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[–] Switorik@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I know this question pops up a thousand times but what email do you suggest? I'm trying proton right now.

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[–] metalhead_@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

posteo.de

german e-mail provider . 1€/month. Enviroment in mind. simple.

Clients i use for smartphone is FairMail and on pc Thunderbird.

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

Tuta.con

If you like, get your very own domain as well, and make infinite aliases.

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[–] I_Am_Jacks_____@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

You still can't have an alias go to multiple mailboxes, though, right? Or even forward out of tuta?

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The terminology is a bit confusing, so let’s clarify. What you really have is just one mailbox, not many. It acts as a catch-all mailbox for all mail sent to any addresses under your domain. You just need to set up folders and sorting rules to keep things tidy.

So let’s say you bought cool.tech and you made a single mailbox like inbox@cool.tech. Nobody sends mail there specifically, but that’s where it all goes because it’s a catch-all address. All the other addresses mail is sent to were never explicitly created, but they can receive anyway.

Instead, you get mail to addresses like ScammyAppName@cool.tech and iJustWantedToDownloadThisOneFile@cool.tech, etc. Anything sent to those addresses gets sorted into two separate folders within the only mailbox you’ll ever need. If you want the same email to appear in two folders, you would need to make a copy of it.

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[–] Switorik@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

I'll give it a go.

Do you have any suggestions on a maps app that is compatible with android auto or is android auto another can of worms?

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago

Never needed to mess around with that, so I don’t have any advice.

As far as maps in general are concerned, I’m currently experimenting with OSM based maps. If you’re on iOS, you can easily get away from google by using apple maps. Not gonna get away from big tech that way, but still…

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[–] haroldfinch@feddit.nl 6 points 5 months ago

Fair point.

Although it does have the biggest exposure to Google addicts.

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[–] olivier@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

Any alternative client recommandations?

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[–] kwarg@mander.xyz 7 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

My personal recommendation that has been working for me (although there are other options that for some people might be better)

NewPipe for videos

Metrolist for music and podcasts

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[–] olivier@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago

Thanks, will give them a try!

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[–] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

oh lol. stopped watching the video when he said to protect yourself when browsing sign out of chrome

how about using a non spyware browser instead? e. g. Firefox

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

i would have thought, based on the title, that 'step one' would be 'ditch chrome'

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[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Gasp...the audacity to even suggest something so obscene. Shame on you!

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago*

Google can track you even if you don't use any of it's services or products. Beginning with half the websites in internet, most from the US, use googleanalytics, google-tagmanager and sending data to Alphabet, adding information from Cloudflare and also mobile data, among others. Not so easy to avoid Google, less using YT, only possible to avoid the worst spying. One measure is to use EU apps and services insted of those from the US.

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Shoutout to yt-dlp.

[+] osanna@lemmy.vg 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

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[–] weaselsrippedmyflesh@piefed.social [S] 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Wish we weren't stuck with YT, but Peertube and others are not nearly anp viable option yet. Hurray for other clients, though.

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

Peertube and others are not nearly anp viable option yet

Can you please clarify why not?

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[–] weaselsrippedmyflesh@piefed.social [S] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

There's simply not even close to the amount of content amassed on YT, and on Peertube's case (and perhaps on the Fediverse itself), having to navigate through instances makes onboarding not as seamless as the alternative. On the other hand, I think YT's monetization scheme makes it a more attractive platform at the moment, which further contributes to the extent of its user base.

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

there is more content on PeerTube already that you can watch during your lifetime
monetization exists on PeerTube exists and is not based on advertising (which has terrible side effect on privacy)

So I think if one is looking for PeerTube to be a copy of YouTube in terms of both content and monetization they will be disappointed... but also maybe that's the problem in itself. YouTube monetization is damaging (forcing to be a popularity contest) and bring poor content in. Sure some very few content creator are still on it but a lot already moved away. The assumption though is that there is a link between popularity and quality. It's time to reconsider.

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[–] weaselsrippedmyflesh@piefed.social [S] 2 points 5 months ago

Look, I'd love for Peertube to rival Youtube (and it's a growing platform, who knows what will happen in the future), but like you said, there are very few content creators and mainstream personalities there. Try looking up a song, a clip from a popular TV show, a game walkthrough, a stand up from your favorite comedian, a silly meme, whatever, and if you find anything on Peertube, that's impressive, but on Youtube you'll have dozens upon dozens of examples. The difference in scale over popular content makes any usability comparison right now just wishful thinking. This has been by far YT's (and maybe on a larger scale Google's) strength: everything/everyone is already there, so why go anywhere else, where not nearly the amount of people will be watching and bringing in money based on those views.

Still, I'm hopeful people will accept alternative platforms more and more, with how shitty the YT experience has been on the official client and I enjoy discovering new channels I can follow on Peertube, but as of now, I don't think most people could ditch one for the other, realistically.

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[–] TheRiskiestBiscuit@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago

A digital panopticon.

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

Posted google link rather than nvideous. Why not just put it on peer tube?

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 6 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Without having watched it, I'll guess stopping it goes in the line of "little by little, but growing ever more independant from it".

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[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

That's what I'm doing..

Switch away from Google Chrome to [redacted].

Switch away from Google Search to [redacted].

Get a free [redacted] account and start moving accounts.

Use [redacted] instead of Google Maps, discover [redacted] is now owned by Google, buy a fucking atlas. Fuck this timeline.

Next step/shit to figure out:

Move my contacts off of Google.

The Last Thing I'll Do: Migrate Photos to a self-hosted solution.

Edit: Why is this downvoted? Did you guys follow me from reddit lol

Edit 2: Removed any mention of software that may have offended people.

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[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

Don't use Brave.

Also use CoMaps with RHVoice.

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[–] stoicEuropean@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I can recommend HereWeGo as an alternative to Maps. I switched two years ago and I am quite happy with it ever since.

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[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

Installed. But, long term, how do they plan to pay their bills?

Also, any advice for a text-to-speech engine on Graphene? Here We Go won't talk to me without one.

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[–] WilkoWandered@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago

SherpaTTS is what I use for text to speech on GrapheneOS. Works fine with herewego.

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[–] Milk@lemdro.id 3 points 5 months ago

Try using CoMaps or Organic Maps. I prefer Co Maps over Organic Maps but each their own.

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[–] grumpusbumpus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

"Stop using Google." ?

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

What channel is the video from? I can't copy the link into a frontend and I prefer not to load google in my browser.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 5 months ago*

You have so many Google trackers already from other sites and hosts that not visiting it is itself more information than visiting it

Edit: forgot to add that I still appreciate you a lot I just mean if it's for privacy, you likely have forgotten some fingerprint or script because it's almost impossible to browse at all without doing so