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[–] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Too bad he's light on specifics here - basically "we have to DO something!" - but his more detailed message includes repeal Citizens United, increase billionaire taxation, improve public infrastructure, fix up and use old homes to create low-cost housing, and other things. Creating an economy of owners and renters and squeezing out the homeowner class has been the trend for decades. It's been called modern feudalism and other things, but it's not new at all, it's making steady progress, and it shows no sign of slowing down.

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Gotta say, he's hitting the right notes for me.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago

    The guy sounds reasonable. I'd vote for him for president.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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    [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    lets hope hes not another turncoat like some other dems that were on a "progressive platform" only to switch immediately after elected.

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  • [+] -8 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Nazi tattoo that his friends say he knew about. Public reddit comments about how he wants to kill for fun. Blackwater derivative volunteer. Abu Ghraib worksman.

    This is an enemy of the people, yet Democrats want him elected, exposing their true motive: control over ethics, power over people.

    The wild part is how the DNC doesn't even want this guy. Imagine simping for neo-Nazi that even the DNC won't touch. The state of US politics is comical.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Eh, I had a libertarian stint in my past. I hate the villany of changing your opinions. "Flip flopping" is one of the biggest failures you can supposedly have as a modern politician (or even person). We should praise people when they change thier views, not condemn them for it.

    At minimum, he must be better than Collins. That's the alternative. Even if he doesn't actually believe this stuff, it's still a significant improvement.

    I do think he believes it though. I think he has a bad past, and that lead him down some dark roads. However, I think this has taught him some lessons that he's learned from. He sees how shitty he was in the past and has improved. I hope this is true for everyone. If you still hold the same beliefs you did in the past, you're a failure of a human. If you don't see how stupid and ignorant the younger you was, you aren't living a life worth living.

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  • [+] -10 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Nazis are rehabilitated with lead. Fuck you, apologist.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I hope you can look back in the future and see how stupid you are currently too.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Does he regret it? I've heard him speak about the nazi tattoo issue and he doesn't seem exactly apologetic and regretful.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I heard him speak about it some. I don't think regretful is the right word for what he feels about it, just that it was at a time he did a lot of stupid stuff. I think the tattoo is a fairly small part. It's just the part that is easy for people to post an image online and brand him as a Nazi, so they can make otherwise progressive people apethetic and not support him without engaging in what he actually thinks.

    If you actually cared what his opinion was, you'd know this. However, you just let some trolls mislead you and then you spread their propoganda. Their goal is to spread apathy, so you don't support things you should. No one is perfect, but he's pretty damn good from what I've seen and heard. He's anti-war and is one of the few people asking for decreasing the military budget. Does that sound like a fascist?

    Learn to think for yourself and stop spreading this voter apathy nonsense. You're a useful puppet to people trying to make you not get what you want.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    He tried to say he didn't know what is was from, but there was proof showing he had it for years after learning where it originated. Being able to avoid tattooing actual Nazi emblems on yourself should be a bare minimum requirement for any "progressive" politician.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I have known a number of Marines. What they tattoo'd on their bodies is the least of my concerns. They've all done fucked up shit having been in the USMC.

    They're also the most steadfast and active anti-war and leftist organizers that I have ever known.

    Hell, you can go back a century to Smedley Butler. He was not wrong and should not be discounted.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    The wild part is how the DNC doesn’t even want this guy

    You can certainly dislike this guy on his own merits, but DNC approval doesn't mean shit to me these days considering how they snubbed Mamdani. DNC lost any and all credibility with me years ago.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    I got to say his interview on the John Stewart podcast a while back made me a teeny bit nervous. He talked about power a lot in a somewhat fascistic framing. Of course a lot of the other things he was talking about was fantastic. But there is that nagging doubt in the back of my mind about him. I really can't say.

    I will say I certainly don't believe any of his excuses for the tattoo, and he completely dodged the topic on that interview.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago*

    I find it very hard to trust someone in any sort of leadership position who says they loved war, he said that people needed to die because he believed his way of life was the correct one, there have been a few different quotes where he mentions enjoying combat. And a literal Nazi emblem as a tattoo. How the fuck is he even being discussed as someone to elect in any sort of position at all?

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  • [+] -7 points 5 months ago

    i dunno how to feel about that guy

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  • [+] -28 points 5 months ago (26 children)

    Isn't this the guy that said he didn't know his nazi tattoo he got while spreading imperialism and killing brown kids for money was a nazi tattoo and because he's still in the first stage of the Fetterman Tactic™ everyone moved on and pretended he was totally reformed from being a nazi-tattoo wearing storm trooper that definitely killed brown children for money?

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I get where you are coming from. But the idea doesn't jive with his leaked Reddit account and the posts he made. Dude is a Bernie bro in the best possible way.

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  • [+] -8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    who defends imperialism whenever possible and promises to continue who literally signed up to kill people for fun

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    He defends imperialism in what way? I'm not sure we're talking about the same person at this point

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    He supports the current military budget and joined to kill people serving four tours and then serving as a mercenary for the excitement of killing people. He argues for massive shipbuilding buildup to "combat china", he supports extended benefits for military members to increase recruitment and on and on. He is not quiet about this his main problem with the current military isn't its action but what he views as waster and bad spending.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    He advocates for redirecting funds from military operations to domestic needs, citing the billions spent on endless wars while domestic healthcare and housing systems struggle.

    The ship building stuff seems to be more around instead of having China build them, build them in America.

    He seems pretty darn anti-war and anti-interventionist from what I've heard from him in interviews.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I dunno, wouldn’t the right wing media leave him alone then?

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  • [+] -13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not sure I understand what point you could possibly be making about the nazi you are implicitly supporting with this comment?

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I’m saying if he’s about to pull a fetterman, wouldn’t the right be letting him fly under the radar?

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  • [+] -8 points 5 months ago

    That's the opposite of how they treated fetterman so why would they do that in this case? Fetterman was constantly lambasted by right-wing media when he was still stage one fetterman. If there were some precedent for your idea that right-wing media is competent enough to have a conspiracy like that I might agree with you; but lets be honest they're not.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Ok.

    So I guess we’ll just have Sue again then? Or are you planning on running or supporting someone better?

    No? Just shitting then?

    Ok.

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  • [+] -26 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    So the answer to 'hey this guy is a nazi who likes killing children' is 'HURRRRRRRR BUT ARE YOU GOING TO RUN INSTEAD, NO? WELL WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A NAZI THEN HURRRRRRRR'

    Fascinating how the far-right mind works.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Yep, kinda thought you were ridiculous. Thanks for removing any doubt.

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  • [+] -8 points 5 months ago

    its not ridiculous to oppose imperialism and nazism even if there is no electoral opponent with winnign chances currently thats silly talk. Stop defending imperialism so you can get more of a cut of the benefits you ghoul.

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  • [+] -11 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Enjoy being bewildered by him voting along side trump 90% of the time by his 6 month mark while upvoting posts with the tagline 'how could we have possibly seen this coming... again... for the 20th time in the last two election cycles.'

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Dude. Just put the meth down already. It’s bad for your health.

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  • [+] -8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Hey maybe I'm wrong and this won't be yet another '"progressive" cishet white guy with a clear history of far-right behavior and beliefs that turns out to just be far right and not reformed.' I'd be happy if that were the case. Hasn't been so far but hey I'm rooting for you guys. Maybe you guys can reform.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's smart to be skeptical but not to be ridiculous.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm pretty sure 'ridiculous' doesn't enter into it when the dude had a nazi tattoo.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    I saw the tattoo. I never would have thought it was Nazi. Sleazy biker trash, absolutely. I had to read up on it to know it was Nazi. And I was raised on The Discovery and History channels. So I'm not without some knowledge on the topic. It was an absolutely stupid decision but from what I've seen, tattoos before your mid thirties almost always are.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    His entire campaign has shown that being a progressive actually works against him, not for him. He's just fortunate to have landed at a point in time when Democrats and Republicans are lockstep in letting billionaires loot the country and the working class to a previously unimaginable degree.

    But cool.

    Sure.

    Give us the old bitch in the governor's office who is 100% a-okay with your family being unable to feed itself and opposed a data center ban. They can prop her up like McConnell until she's literally unable to speak, if by some miracle she beats Collins at all. (Unlikely when she's on the wrong side of every issue with what voters want at the moment.)

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Couldn't care less if he's not learned on symbology.

    I care that he thinks people should actually be able to earn a living wage in this country; something apparently no other Democrat is willing to commit to, sans Bernie.

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  • [+] -26 points 5 months ago (19 children)

    Stop boosting this imperialist warmonger.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Find someone better who lives in Maine

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  • [+] -19 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Or you know abandon the dead end of electorlism.

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    Theyre not saying someone is better. Theyre a complete feckless idiot suggesting violence or some other moronic avenue which they of course won't be doing but instead asking someone else to do it.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    Let's be honest. They're a troll spreading apathy. They aren't promoting any alternative, just doing nothing. Either they're a troll, trying to help the opponents, or they have been mislead by one of these trolls that has convinced them being the equivalent of empty air is the best thing they can do.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

    You're right.

    We should all be paying Hillary to make speeches and devastate whole-ass countries again.

    That's what represents a good Dem, no?

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    No such thing as a good dem and just because hilary is bad doesn't make other imperialism okay

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Go read his platform.

    He is the only Dem who is publicly anti-war.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    you go read his platform about increasing military benefits and initiating a "massive shipbuilding project"

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I don't understand how making VA benefits better equates to imperialism

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    They just want military vets to suffer. Not because a lot of them were kids scooped up by a war machine with the promise of free college, no. It’s because their tenuous grasp of imperialism dictates that any and all actors are blood thirsty Americans eating Iraqi babies and drinking the blood of the afghans.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    First, si vis pacem, para bellum. If you're defencless, you get invaded. If you want peace, you need to be ready to fight, to some extent. The current budget? Way too large, and he agrees. Shipbuilding though? We are shit at it now. We need to do better if we don't want to rely on China, which makes us a target. This includes commercial as well as military.

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  • [+] -22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Graham Platner out here trying to build his 1000 year empire

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Totally.

    Must be why he's one of the few people labeled 'Dem' who actually publicly opposes war.

    Because he's imperialist.

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