▲ 243 ▼ Graham Platner on how billionaires want you to own nothing and the need to build something new (files.catbox.moe) submitted 5 months ago by favoredponcho@lemmy.zip to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world 78 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -26 points 5 months ago (19 children) Stop boosting this imperialist warmonger. permalink fedilink source hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 17 points 5 months ago (7 children) Find someone better who lives in Maine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -19 points 5 months ago (6 children) Or you know abandon the dead end of electorlism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fan0m@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (3 children) Ok so who is better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) Theyre not saying someone is better. Theyre a complete feckless idiot suggesting violence or some other moronic avenue which they of course won't be doing but instead asking someone else to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* Let's be honest. They're a troll spreading apathy. They aren't promoting any alternative, just doing nothing. Either they're a troll, trying to help the opponents, or they have been mislead by one of these trolls that has convinced them being the equivalent of empty air is the best thing they can do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 5 months ago anti electoralism is a better strategy to get any goals actually harmful to the system permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@retrofed.com 8 points 5 months ago This is what's called a "pipe dream." You're welcome to rejoin the rest of us back in reality whenever you'd like permalink fedilink source parent [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago They believe in electoralism because they think the only other way to make change is trough a violence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fan0m@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -9 points 5 months ago (1 child) okay so you support imperialism and your opinion is invalid to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago As you may know, America is the center of the world and the atrocities he committed doesn’t count because it’s against brown people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago imperialist warmonger. I'd want some kind of sources on this one. This here looks a little libelous otherwise, and while I don't expect it's true it's just not a good look. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children) You're right. We should all be paying Hillary to make speeches and devastate whole-ass countries again. That's what represents a good Dem, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 5 months ago (5 children) No such thing as a good dem and just because hilary is bad doesn't make other imperialism okay permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (4 children) Go read his platform. He is the only Dem who is publicly anti-war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) you go read his platform about increasing military benefits and initiating a "massive shipbuilding project" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I don't understand how making VA benefits better equates to imperialism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] oldwoodenship@lemmus.org 5 points 5 months ago They just want military vets to suffer. Not because a lot of them were kids scooped up by a war machine with the promise of free college, no. It’s because their tenuous grasp of imperialism dictates that any and all actors are blood thirsty Americans eating Iraqi babies and drinking the blood of the afghans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago First, si vis pacem, para bellum. If you're defencless, you get invaded. If you want peace, you need to be ready to fight, to some extent. The current budget? Way too large, and he agrees. Shipbuilding though? We are shit at it now. We need to do better if we don't want to rely on China, which makes us a target. This includes commercial as well as military. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 17 points 5 months ago (7 children) Find someone better who lives in Maine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -19 points 5 months ago (6 children) Or you know abandon the dead end of electorlism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fan0m@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (3 children) Ok so who is better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) Theyre not saying someone is better. Theyre a complete feckless idiot suggesting violence or some other moronic avenue which they of course won't be doing but instead asking someone else to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* Let's be honest. They're a troll spreading apathy. They aren't promoting any alternative, just doing nothing. Either they're a troll, trying to help the opponents, or they have been mislead by one of these trolls that has convinced them being the equivalent of empty air is the best thing they can do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 5 months ago anti electoralism is a better strategy to get any goals actually harmful to the system permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@retrofed.com 8 points 5 months ago This is what's called a "pipe dream." You're welcome to rejoin the rest of us back in reality whenever you'd like permalink fedilink source parent [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago They believe in electoralism because they think the only other way to make change is trough a violence. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -19 points 5 months ago (6 children) Or you know abandon the dead end of electorlism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fan0m@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (3 children) Ok so who is better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) Theyre not saying someone is better. Theyre a complete feckless idiot suggesting violence or some other moronic avenue which they of course won't be doing but instead asking someone else to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* Let's be honest. They're a troll spreading apathy. They aren't promoting any alternative, just doing nothing. Either they're a troll, trying to help the opponents, or they have been mislead by one of these trolls that has convinced them being the equivalent of empty air is the best thing they can do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 5 months ago anti electoralism is a better strategy to get any goals actually harmful to the system permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@retrofed.com 8 points 5 months ago This is what's called a "pipe dream." You're welcome to rejoin the rest of us back in reality whenever you'd like permalink fedilink source parent [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago They believe in electoralism because they think the only other way to make change is trough a violence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fan0m@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (3 children) Ok so who is better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) Theyre not saying someone is better. Theyre a complete feckless idiot suggesting violence or some other moronic avenue which they of course won't be doing but instead asking someone else to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* Let's be honest. They're a troll spreading apathy. They aren't promoting any alternative, just doing nothing. Either they're a troll, trying to help the opponents, or they have been mislead by one of these trolls that has convinced them being the equivalent of empty air is the best thing they can do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 5 months ago anti electoralism is a better strategy to get any goals actually harmful to the system permalink fedilink source parent
[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) Theyre not saying someone is better. Theyre a complete feckless idiot suggesting violence or some other moronic avenue which they of course won't be doing but instead asking someone else to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* Let's be honest. They're a troll spreading apathy. They aren't promoting any alternative, just doing nothing. Either they're a troll, trying to help the opponents, or they have been mislead by one of these trolls that has convinced them being the equivalent of empty air is the best thing they can do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* Let's be honest. They're a troll spreading apathy. They aren't promoting any alternative, just doing nothing. Either they're a troll, trying to help the opponents, or they have been mislead by one of these trolls that has convinced them being the equivalent of empty air is the best thing they can do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 5 months ago anti electoralism is a better strategy to get any goals actually harmful to the system permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@retrofed.com 8 points 5 months ago This is what's called a "pipe dream." You're welcome to rejoin the rest of us back in reality whenever you'd like permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago They believe in electoralism because they think the only other way to make change is trough a violence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fan0m@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -9 points 5 months ago (1 child) okay so you support imperialism and your opinion is invalid to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago As you may know, America is the center of the world and the atrocities he committed doesn’t count because it’s against brown people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent
[+] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -9 points 5 months ago (1 child) okay so you support imperialism and your opinion is invalid to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago As you may know, America is the center of the world and the atrocities he committed doesn’t count because it’s against brown people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago As you may know, America is the center of the world and the atrocities he committed doesn’t count because it’s against brown people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago imperialist warmonger. I'd want some kind of sources on this one. This here looks a little libelous otherwise, and while I don't expect it's true it's just not a good look. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children) You're right. We should all be paying Hillary to make speeches and devastate whole-ass countries again. That's what represents a good Dem, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 5 months ago (5 children) No such thing as a good dem and just because hilary is bad doesn't make other imperialism okay permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (4 children) Go read his platform. He is the only Dem who is publicly anti-war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) you go read his platform about increasing military benefits and initiating a "massive shipbuilding project" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I don't understand how making VA benefits better equates to imperialism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] oldwoodenship@lemmus.org 5 points 5 months ago They just want military vets to suffer. Not because a lot of them were kids scooped up by a war machine with the promise of free college, no. It’s because their tenuous grasp of imperialism dictates that any and all actors are blood thirsty Americans eating Iraqi babies and drinking the blood of the afghans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago First, si vis pacem, para bellum. If you're defencless, you get invaded. If you want peace, you need to be ready to fight, to some extent. The current budget? Way too large, and he agrees. Shipbuilding though? We are shit at it now. We need to do better if we don't want to rely on China, which makes us a target. This includes commercial as well as military. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 5 months ago (5 children) No such thing as a good dem and just because hilary is bad doesn't make other imperialism okay permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (4 children) Go read his platform. He is the only Dem who is publicly anti-war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) you go read his platform about increasing military benefits and initiating a "massive shipbuilding project" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I don't understand how making VA benefits better equates to imperialism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] oldwoodenship@lemmus.org 5 points 5 months ago They just want military vets to suffer. Not because a lot of them were kids scooped up by a war machine with the promise of free college, no. It’s because their tenuous grasp of imperialism dictates that any and all actors are blood thirsty Americans eating Iraqi babies and drinking the blood of the afghans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago First, si vis pacem, para bellum. If you're defencless, you get invaded. If you want peace, you need to be ready to fight, to some extent. The current budget? Way too large, and he agrees. Shipbuilding though? We are shit at it now. We need to do better if we don't want to rely on China, which makes us a target. This includes commercial as well as military. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (4 children) Go read his platform. He is the only Dem who is publicly anti-war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) you go read his platform about increasing military benefits and initiating a "massive shipbuilding project" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I don't understand how making VA benefits better equates to imperialism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] oldwoodenship@lemmus.org 5 points 5 months ago They just want military vets to suffer. Not because a lot of them were kids scooped up by a war machine with the promise of free college, no. It’s because their tenuous grasp of imperialism dictates that any and all actors are blood thirsty Americans eating Iraqi babies and drinking the blood of the afghans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago First, si vis pacem, para bellum. If you're defencless, you get invaded. If you want peace, you need to be ready to fight, to some extent. The current budget? Way too large, and he agrees. Shipbuilding though? We are shit at it now. We need to do better if we don't want to rely on China, which makes us a target. This includes commercial as well as military. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) you go read his platform about increasing military benefits and initiating a "massive shipbuilding project" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I don't understand how making VA benefits better equates to imperialism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] oldwoodenship@lemmus.org 5 points 5 months ago They just want military vets to suffer. Not because a lot of them were kids scooped up by a war machine with the promise of free college, no. It’s because their tenuous grasp of imperialism dictates that any and all actors are blood thirsty Americans eating Iraqi babies and drinking the blood of the afghans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago First, si vis pacem, para bellum. If you're defencless, you get invaded. If you want peace, you need to be ready to fight, to some extent. The current budget? Way too large, and he agrees. Shipbuilding though? We are shit at it now. We need to do better if we don't want to rely on China, which makes us a target. This includes commercial as well as military. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I don't understand how making VA benefits better equates to imperialism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] oldwoodenship@lemmus.org 5 points 5 months ago They just want military vets to suffer. Not because a lot of them were kids scooped up by a war machine with the promise of free college, no. It’s because their tenuous grasp of imperialism dictates that any and all actors are blood thirsty Americans eating Iraqi babies and drinking the blood of the afghans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oldwoodenship@lemmus.org 5 points 5 months ago They just want military vets to suffer. Not because a lot of them were kids scooped up by a war machine with the promise of free college, no. It’s because their tenuous grasp of imperialism dictates that any and all actors are blood thirsty Americans eating Iraqi babies and drinking the blood of the afghans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago First, si vis pacem, para bellum. If you're defencless, you get invaded. If you want peace, you need to be ready to fight, to some extent. The current budget? Way too large, and he agrees. Shipbuilding though? We are shit at it now. We need to do better if we don't want to rely on China, which makes us a target. This includes commercial as well as military. permalink fedilink source parent