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[–] 17 points 5 months ago

Whatever the last one in the room said to this clown is what sticks in his addled mush brain. Of course he's all about how "great Xi is and how tall".

A few days with his flock of asslickers and he will be back to China Bad. Just watch.

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    [–] 48 points 5 months ago

    What a fucking pussy

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  • [–] 41 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    He then goes for a meeting in Taiwan and after receiving a golden Big Mac declares Taiwan should be sovereign

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  • [+] 75 points 5 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 50 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Nah, a cheque or large buy of trump/melania coin or a tacky 'gold' trophy would do it too.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    No Chinese on the Epstein list, they probably don't have it, unlike Putin. What they do have however, is a blank cheque.

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    That's a good lap dog! Yes you are, little Trumpee-poo

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Surprised the fat pedophile stayed awake for the press conference

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    [Trump] added: "I'm going to say I have to speak to the person that right now is, you know, you know who he is, that's running Taiwan."

    How is he so completely unprepared?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Sounds like the deal is help us with Iran and you can have Taiwan.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    What the advantage of Taiwan declating official independence? On the ground it is already.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago*

    Oh shit, let me get my poly market bet in for “US attacks Taiwan”

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Aw, well, it's all settled, then.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    It's almost like Donald doesn't like democracy.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago* (8 children)

    This is literally the most popular position of the people of Taiwan. Despite what western media tries to portray, Taiwan doesn't want to become the next Ukraine. The overwhelming majority of Taiwanese people are not looking to make their home into an aircraft carrier for American fighter jets. Or become the ground for the next world powers proxy war.

    Trump isn't "warning" them. He's literally just stating the obvious. Taiwan wants to remain in its current position and not escalate any conflict. Staying with the status quo is what has been the majority position of Taiwanese people for decades.

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    Thank you. This is the data my brain was remembering. Appreciate the source comrade.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    So, the polls say move towards independence, or at least keep status quo

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)
    33.5 + 26.3 + 6.1 + 1.1 = 67.0
    

    I know math is hard. But this is basic arithmetic. 67% of the population responded with no interest in independence at all. Since my original comment was about "independence vs. status quo" that means (excluding the non response data of 6.6%) you have 67% favoring status quo over the data even leaning towards independence at 21.9 + 4.4 = 26.3%.

    Now I grouped "status quo and decide at a later date" with status quo. So, I'll argue for your case. So for your own arguments sake I'll steelman you as that data being "unknown". It's the middleground take. I think that's the only fair steelman. Since they already responded with "status quo". But, let's say that's just "undecided" people. For the sake of your argument.

    That still leaves 67.0% - 26.3% = 40.7% of Taiwanese people preferring status quo OR unification. With only 26.3% preferring status quo OR independence.

    I know it's hard to read graphs. But, wtf mate, how do you fuck that up so badly? It's just HARD status quo. You pretending that there is a large independence portion is just showing your own bias.

    Again, my original comment wasn't about unification. It was about maintaining the status quo. Which the vast majority of Taiwanese people are in favor of in some form. 67% as of latest polls to be exact.

    Edit: all my numbers are taken from the last part of the graph. Just to clarify.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Then that graph doesn't make sense or do we see different data?

    Edit: so the top 3 want status quo, either indefinitely, decide later, or towards independence.
    Moving towards unification is pretty much one of the lowest ones

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    yeah their point is that, as seen in the 2022 changes, the invasion of ukraine has made “maintain status quo forever” the most popular option—and made “status quo first and move towards independence” and “decide later” (which is leaving open the possibility of moving towards independence) trend downwards. nobody is disagreeing that unification has always been unpopular

    it’s worthy of note that 33.5% against 23% means the latter (status quo and move towards independence) is still a substantially popular opinion, but the person you’re replying to is correct that maintain status quo indefinitely has an incredible plurality

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    Thanks. I'm glad someone can read a graph. It's amazing to me how much American idiots become "war with China" if suddenly the other team (party) says we shouldn't.

    I swear liberals would say the Korean, Vietnam, of Iraq invasions were justified if Trump suddenly said they were bad.

    They have no actual moral compass or understanding of history that guides them. They are reacting to shapes and colors and can't even remove their bias when reading a graph.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    taiwan isnt declaring independence anyways.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago

    What a fucking pussy

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Good news Taiwan wasn't planning that. Seriously current mood is maintaining the defacto independence.

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  • [+] -29 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Shh you'll ruin the entire neoliberal western narrative that has caused the populations of the US and Europe to constantly disparage the single most advanced form of government proven so far. If they cannot fear monger about China being evil bloodthristy imperialists wanting to take Taiwan or propagandize Taiwan as being brave independent freedom fighters then all the other hundreds of billions of dollars in propaganda through hundreds of outlets in more than two dozen countries including extensive terror campaigns, the wholesale creation of several cults, and the world's most extensive propaganda NGO in world history would all be for nothing.

    They really don't understand they're the bad guys and not China, and it'd break their little hearts to find out China got that big without doing all the evil shit they did.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You do realize that China literally considers Taiwan a province in rebellion right? Or did you think that the mainland actually was giving formal recognition to it's independence this whole time.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    Cool so how about closing all those bases in Asia because you don’t need them now.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    Trump; the dictators town bicycle.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    America helps russia... now cossies up to china. What on earth is happening.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    The capitalists have no loyalists to any nation. They will betray and strip the US of all of its natural resources to sell to China if it meant more profit (as they've done to every other nation)

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    [–] 22 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Why would they declare independence

    They are already a globally recognized independent country

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    Because Trump finished high school before the Chinese Cultural Revolution, and has been called by one of his college professors the dumbest student be has ever taught.

    Add in dementia and I really believe Trump has no idea what Taiwan is apart from a word he recognizes and, with preparation, can barely distinguish from Thailand.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Unfortunately not. More countries recognize Palestine than Taiwan, even though Taiwan more clearly is an actual country.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think almost all countries recognize Taiwan including the US

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago*

    Sadly no. There are only 11 countries that have official relations with Taiwan. Almost all other countries either clearly think it's a part of China, or have an ambiguous position towards it. Most western countries are in that last group.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Taiwan

    And as comparison:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Palestine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Taiwan says is an 'independent' nation, after Trump's warning

    Looking at their post history, OP is what is called a 'ziganwu', right?

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  • The separation was encouraged and kept by the Burgers ("unsinkable carrier" as MacArthur said) but the times are changing.

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    [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    He's such simp for any dictator he meets. What an embarrassment.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Trump would be an idiot not to defend Taiwan. Ok, realistically we already know that he is one and it wouldn't be a surprise if he decided not to, but his whole obsession with AI would be immediately contradicted by his unwillingness to defend the people making the hardware for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    That's always been the US's official policy.

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