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[–] 107 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

The justice department also released video surveillance of the hallway outside of Epstein’s cell, although the digital clock on the tape skipped from 11:58:58pm to 12:00am. Officials did not address the jump and added that no further materials would be made public.

Ah yes, the hallway footage with a minute cut out of it. The only footage we have because the camera in his cell was coincidentally not operational. And the only account we have of the events because both of the guards who were assigned to watching the most high-profile dude in the prison, while he was on suicide watch, in a camera-less cell, happened to both be asleep.

Surely this guy totally killed himself

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    This is American fascisms version of "died by falling out of a window". They're making it obvious they can disappear you if you become a problem for them; maybe even implicate you in CP to destroy your life before they take your life.

    The fact that D's refused to release any of this strongly indicates Epstein island was an intelligence honeypot. How does the west feel about their "democracies" secret police enabling and protecting pedophiles as part of intelligence gathering and information warfare? That would be worse than any common war crime IMO.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's not unrealistic that a billionaire staring down the rest of his life in prison would choose to go out on their own terms. It's also ultimately unknowable for any of us normies exactly what went down in that cell, but don't discount the possibility that he simply chose to off himself rather than deal with all of the unpleasantness he had to look towards

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'm more inclined to believe it was a least awful choice. He was a billionaire. Even with all the proof against him, he was never going to be in a normal prison. He killed himself because he had dirt on someone who had keys to the box they were going to put him in and dying on your own was a hell of a lot better than what they might do.

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    [–] 51 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Publicly release all documents in the Epstein files that mention or reference Donald Trump.

    Why not release the whole thing? :^)

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago

    What's sad is we already have a good idea on Trump's crimes documented in the files. Trump and epstin victims have already come forward! We know Trump is a pedo, Trump supporters know he's a pedo (for most deep Christians they like that about him.)

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago

    I want all the names. Not just trump.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    If this shit is releasable like that, then why didn't Biden do it? Fuck trump, maga, conservatives, etc. but why is it such an L that Trump predictably tries to make it go away but it's fine that when the Ds had the WH they didn't do shit?

    Each side is just playing this performative 'release the list!!!!' when they aren't in power. Disgusting no matter who is hiding this shit.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    both parties are severely compromised.

    that's why.

    rich and powerful are all the same scum. just one is openly racist, and the other one is more closeted racist.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    remember when they were all in favour of BLM and defund the police but all they didnwas raise police budgets?

    or completely ignore and promote systemic racism sonthe US schools are now more segregated than during Jim Crow?

    They are there to basically do nothing and protect the status quo that conservatives are creating.

    lets not forget how much they care when a white nation is invaded, but when a brown nation is invaded and genocided it is time to supply weapons to facilitate that genocide?

    Or when they cried about how cruel Trump was for putting children in concentration camps, but even Biden won, he continued the program because fuck brown children?

    yhea, Democrats are purely performative closeted conservatives. while republicans are openly conservatives.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    remember when they were all in favour of BLM and defund the police but all they didnwas raise police budgets?

    Even a significant majority of Black Americans are in favor of raising police budgets.

    Copaganda runs deep.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I can say I've not seen a single political party try to do anything about the systemic racism and race oppression in this nation, in my life time. 8 years with a black president doesn't mean anything when the national standard is still to oppress minorities. So no, they aren't out here calling people slurs, but they certainly aren't doing anything to improve it and that makes them guilty enough.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    release the whole darn thing, no redacted.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Maxwell is still in prison and she knows a lot. I bet Trump has her killed next.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    It's probably a pile of ash in Patel's back yard by now. Nothing to see here.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    The narrative has been changing slowly over time.

    And there has been at least one public case involving him and Epstein.

    We all know he's guilty, and there is no way he is going to self-incriminates himself. The Epstein files will never see the light of day unless someone leaks them.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Why can't they just remove trump and release it without it

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    There's nothing left.

    But in all seriousness, there's likely too many higher up maga party people that redacting them would decimate the list, and it's alphabetical so it would be obvious.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I'm not that up for US politics, but it wasn't released under Dems rule either

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  • [+] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm sure Democrats would be fine with sacrificing Clinton for Trump.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Democrats leadership is nothing but controlled opposition or absolute weak morons, take your pick. Either way they have no interest in the public's best interest. Look no farther than the absolute NOTHINGNESS they've done to stop Trump every step of the way.

    Dem leadership is complicit in this Epstein coverup at the very least. Obligatory fuck trump/maga/conservatives/etc. etc. I'm not a both-sideser, but in this case both sides refuse to release the list or prosecute anyone other than Ghislaine.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It won't lead to shit. We know he's on there. They know he's on there. But for some reason they wanna felate an old crusty fat ugly demented moronic mans mushroom no matter if he's a rapist or not. Hell, I wouldn't doubt it if that knowledge turns them on more...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Good lord they're stupid.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Maybe after Trump and everyone else on the list is dead and gone maybe then the list will come out. But even that is very unlikely.

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  • [+] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    #WikiLeaksEpsteinFiles

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Who fucking cares? What is it going to do really? There has been so much publicity of their relationship, it doesn't change anything. Will it result in charges against Trump? Unlikely, the only one I know of who was willing to put herself and her family at risk, is dead (suicide).

    His supporters will find a way to excuse anything away. There could be a picture of Trump assaulting a young teen and they would just say it's not his fault she looked older than she was.

    To those in this thread saying anything released shouldn't be redacted, remember there were victims, this wasn't just Jeff and Don having a brobait with each other.

    I'm sick of the Democrats and their shitty platitudes, because that's all this is. Demand compassion and due process for the millions being terrified by federally protected kidnappers. Demand that Republicans meet to discuss the phasing out of some of the TPS rules (temporary is in the name and just because there is an EO doesn't mean there can't be a law that changes it). Demand that we stop defending the atrocities of megalomaniacs around the world. Demand that the legislative branch takes back the power of the purse and writes laws to affect trade.

    Might be the only time I agree with the ball of congealed Cheeto vomit, but why the fuck are we still talking about Epstein?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Demand compassion and due process for the millions being terrified by federally protected kidnappers...

    And demand it with loud, coordinated, unifier voices. Do it unequivocally. None of this single statement, some "concern", some calling for vague "resistance", etc. Being weak and disorganized will do nothing.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Everyone here will complain no matter what the dems do, especially after not giving them power to do anything tangible.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Apologists forget that Dems held majority at various times and squandered it.

    They had their time to be good people and do the right things. Instead they paved way for fascism in their service to capital.

    Everyone complaining about the various things the Dems do is reflective of people seeing them for the farce that they are. In essence, they are controlled resistance - a black hole to swallow up progressive movements and snuff them out before it threatens anything economically.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Let's see- passed the ACA which wasn't great but did so with the bare majority they had. IRA during Biden which passed by the skin of its teeth. Of course DoJ should've done way more, etc. but that, forgiving as much student loans as Biden could, IRA was the biggest climate bill ever, etc.

    Sure- it wasn't perfect but I don't think they "squandered" it at all.

    But hey- it obviously wasn't enough so it was only right to not vote in LOCAL primaries, etc. and not vote in the general election for Democrats so the Republicans could take yet another wrecking ball to everything. SURELY the goals of liberals and progressives are much closer now that Republicans have power again.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    We can argue about what is "squandered" or not, but ultimately it's a subjective word.

    To the point of Dems being controlled opposition and relating your example of the ACA: single payer was always an option and one that people were interested in, but capital interests (whom both parties serve) decided it wasn't going to happen. Then an "American" solution was devised (ACA) which attempted to improve some things. So we got neither of the supposed benefits of either model, and instead ended up with more of a convoluted system that has the alleged benefits of neither. Ultimately it did nothing to alter the course of the healthcare system at large, and here we are in 2025 and the system remains as a tool to extract profit from sick people. People still choose between medicine or rent or food in this country.

    Sure ACA doesn't allow the pre-existing condition thing that insurers did for a long time. But the mandate to get people insured made dollar signs pop into the eyes of capitalists. Overall, they saw a situation where they came out ahead, so that's what they allowed to happen.

    These laws are passed in the interest of capital first, politics second, and common people third. It's the common trends of agency capture, lobbying, campaign donations, regulatory mingling, privatization, and many other practices that exemplify this as the de facto standard that both of the major parties participate in. And this is how they pave the way for fascism - by encouraging and playing along with the ongoing fusion of state and capital. Both parties drop bombs on brown kids, both build cages and walls (literally and figuratively), both seek to extract wealth from the rest of the world, both subsidize private industry, and both are completely fine with the wealthy and powerful dictating or influencing almost every aspect of our lives in pursuit of profit.

    So yeah, it's squandered opportunity in my eyes because in the grand scheme of things Democrats seek to appease an advantaged class (not you and me) to the detriment of a disadvantaged class.

    And I know you'll be looking around for an example here and there to defend these politicians - save your energy. You need to look at the common trajectory of both of these parties. You can find examples of Republicans doing a good thing or two here and there as well. But again, when the chips are down they'll all side with the forces that wanna squeeze every drop of blood from every turnip in this world. When tensions rise they might throw you a bone or two to keep you quiet and going to work - after all, someone's gotta build those bombs and guns and it sure as hell isn't gonna be them.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Who fucking cares? Obviously a lot of people troll. Donald stated he was going to release it… Bimbo Bondi stated it was on her desk… getting released soon. Now they don’t want it released. We know his name and other Dems are on it. We’ve seen many pictures released with him and Donald together with girls.

    Yeah.. we care.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Dems left a strongly worded voice mail message at the White House.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I’m curious to learn what changes in their actions would make you feel like they’re doing a good job?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Go back in time and release the list during the 4 years that Biden was in charge of the DOJ. They had their chance to be open about this case and they did functionally the same shit Trump is doing here.

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