Democrats have no intention of changing anything meaningful. We learned that when Obama had a supermajority and became a black Dubya, despite his extravagant progressive promises.
Our only power is local now, and they know this, which is why they swift-boated Mamdani and ran a Democratic partisan against him.
Yes, it will take a major disruption to necessitate any meaningful change at the national level.
Is reforms from Democrats enough?
"Theyβve got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen"
Huey Long, campaign speech for the re-election of Senator Hattie Caraway (D-AR), 1932
Am I the only one that believe the US has to go through some sort of painful transition/civil war/revolution to fix it?
No, you aren't. I'm sorry you have to go through this hard way
Sorry if my english is bad
"I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done."
I am quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I know think vainly, flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.
Nothing will change until we group together and stop exploitation. This includes how America has propagandize that all violence is equal. Nothing is going to change unless some bricks go through some windows and I think we are past even that. Not a single person in power is on our side.
If reforms from democrats was enough, we wouldn't have Trump right now.
Revolution is necessary, because the bourgeois state cannot be dismantled and a proletarian state put in place via peaceful means.
I highly recommend you read Blueprint for a Revolution by Sroja Popovic. Dude was involved in the Serbian revolution and has advised movements around the world on what works against fascist regimes and what doesn't. Our hope isn't in a party, it's in the people. And violence not only isn't required for a Revolution, it's not anywhere near as effective as non-violent resistance.
Itβs a class war, now combined with AI sucking up the most basic of living resources, from us to the billionairesβ latest pet project.
Everything else is a distraction. Remember, up to 50% (depending on what study you read) of social media is bots.
There won't be real reforms from Democrats because they're complicit and invested in the system staying exactly as it is. Just "nicer."
I agree with you, the Democrats aren't going to reform anything, even if they wanted to (and they don't).
A financial collapse seems inevitable at this point, Balkanization may be a very good thing. There's no need for a civil war, we're nicely divided already and have functioning state governments that will quickly replace the Federals. That's best case scenario.
Worst case scenario? Civil War II, but really, "The South" has even less of a chance of winning now. This seems unlikely. Best to just cut them off and stop propping up their miserable states, within a generation or two they will learn that they need us (coastal cities) far more than we need them.
Jesus isn't going to come save the day, no matter what The Christian Broadcasting Network says.
Oh, sweet summer child. The Democrats don't even have an interest in reforming the system, which is why nothing changes even when they have a majority in congress. Reformism is dead. Only a revolution can save the working class from the stranglehold of capital.
Now, is a revolution in the US forthcoming? Unless conditions change dramatically, I would say not. But we have entered the weeks where decades happen and left the decades where weeks happen. If you want to be prepared, organize and read theory; having a reality-based perspective will help you regardless of where we're headed.
The degree of the chaos between current governmental state and a better government is the concern i always wonder about. One thing we know is that the rich dont want it to fundamentally change. Even the dems. When biden was comforting a group of megawealthy donors and assuring them that 'nothing would fundamentally change' with him in charge, he was speaking for the party. And they havent budged from there. They are not friends of the common people but they are somewhat closer to us than the gop.
I mean, we basically have, in my opinion, the choice of a civil war, some sort of revolution, or complete and total economic collapse, and rebuilding after the collapse to fix America.
I don't see any other way than that.
I would vote for a candidate that begins the process of devolving the Union so we can eventually divorce into separate countries. I think we are doomed for civil war either way. As a Californian, when they're doing stuff like systematically disenfranchising us, withholding our Medicaid dollars and attacking our public universities despite us contributing more to the treasury than we take back, it's hard to feel like an American. I'd prefer to be a citizen of California than share a country with these freaks. Winning elections won't make me feel any better after seeing how they despise and want to destroy us.
As things stand, unfortunately, the far-right is significantly better armed and better prepared for a breakdown in government.
While I would prefer to peacefully reform the system, it's increasingly clear that there's validity to the saying, "If you want peace, prepare for war." The fact that the right is better positioned for a breakdown in order allows them to push further and further without fear. Civil war or revolution isn't going to be something the left chooses, rather, if current trends continue (and it seems like they will) we may end up in a situation where it's forced upon us and we are left but no choice to defend ourselves.
It's not necessarily an all-or-nothing deal. There are methods of fighting back that are more effective than relying on the Democrats but don't constitute full-on revolution, such as strikes. While strikes are non-violent, history has shown that they have potential to become violent, for example, if a boss hires mercenaries to force people back to work at gunpoint.
Likewise, if masked gunmen started showing up to people's workplaces, demanding some of the workers to be handed over to be taken as hostages, workers need to be prepared to deal with that emergency.
Practically speaking, even if you wanted a revolution, there's now way that would even be viable while practical steps for community defense have not been made. I'm not sure it's rhetorically necessary to go further than that, particularly on a public forum.
I think you're right
Nothing will change until the pedophile class lives in fear. We need a revolution
I've always believed that we were living through the collapse of the American Hegemony, but I could never describe the system until I read about the Imperial Boomerang and the Five Phase Lifecycle which captures the US' expansionist policies post WW2. Except we never needed war, we had the petrodollar.
The problem when you have a system that centralized, you have one major factor, and then the inability to grow leads to the empire turning within with its expansionist policies towards its people. Its the perfect system to have an incompetent boob turn cruel. And once that happens, everyone senses something wicked on the horizon. Soft power with allies completely vanishes. New allegiances are forged. A new hyperpower emerges. And the most defensive behavior is to protect your own interests -- which accelerate the inevitable collapse.
The US is a very big country, and any future shape will have it more like a confederation -- either officially in its successor states, or more likely by Balkanization. Whether or not its the New America we want, well, I'm not that clairvoyant.
I hope this makes sense, I'm not a political expert. All I am certain of, in my gut, is that Trump is the final manifestation of the decline phase, and this is the final act. The Roman empire went through many drastic 'collapses' in its span, this doesn't mark the end of America, but of the current post-WW2 hegemony? The one driven by the GI Bill and Technological progress? We aren't coming back from this.
I think the United States as we knew it is dying. I feel no kinship with the MAGA nor the Epstein Class, my desire to be kind and fair towards that lot has long since evaporated. Odds are, many folks in Tennessee and Minneapolis feel the same.
It's not a matter of 'fixing it'. The USA is transforming itself from a liberal democracy to a christian theocracy. Evangelical leaders have been working on this since the 1980's. They want to change the constitution to remove the separation of church and state. This is what Project 2025 is all about. They are about 60% there. The first act of the new Christian Nationalism will be the American Genocide of trans, gays and lesbians. This is what ICE is being groomed for. They must be willing and able to execute women and children in the camps they are setting up. Renee Good was the test case. Get ready, the program has been copied from Nazi Germany, look it up.
Well, it depends on what you mean by "fixing it". Could things be reformed to meet a status quo similar to pre-1970 without violence? Sure. Reform like that would be difficult, it would take decades, and it would take a lot of political will. Reform like that would be akin to a house of cards, all it would take is a single Republican majority for a single term to knock it back down. I also think reforms like that are completely inadequate to resolving the underlying problem that has put us in these times: capitalism. Assuming reform is successful, we'll be right back in the same spot about 80 years later. For things to be truly fixed, we need to overthrow capitalism. This will be violent and tumultuous.
Is reforms from Democrats enough?
Lol. Lmao. Definitely not. Democrats have no solutions.
Watch this.
EDIT: But now I'm finally going to get around to asking this: do any of you, living in the US, vote?
Would you ever consider voting DSA/Socially democratic, even if your views are to the left of them and you are anti-capitalist? What if voting for the PSL is not an option where you are? Would you ever vote for someone like Trump just to make things intentionally worse in the hopes of sparking off a revolution? Not sure if I will ever vote again at this point...
No, plenty of us believe it. I didn't recently purchase 10+ different guns and a ton of ammo because I think things will work out.
Unfortunately, more people think diplomacy and peaceful protest and waiting until the next time to vote will be enough.
It's fucking dumb.
If my plan to leave the US permanently fails, I'm prepared for literal civil war.
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