In the aggregate, as many as 295,000 more people may have left the U.S. than immigrated there in 2025, according to one study

Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/americans-leaving-citizenship-emigration-trump-b2975395.html


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[–] 55 points 6 months ago (14 children)
  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    You can probably find a job as an English teacher in East Asia

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Not if I want to keep my kids.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Same. My wife wouldn't come. She wants to stay.

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  • [+] -18 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    americans are barely literate

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Trust me when I say this, it's not the illiterate ones looking to leave

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  • [+] -8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I don't want those here either

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Where's "here", so I can avoid it?

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    Wow, another win for the pedo party. Over a quarter of a million less people to deport, imprison, and eventually kill.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    pegged the outflow at around 150,000 people in 2025.

    Before 2009, a typical year saw 200 to 400 people renounce their citizenship. By 2025, that figure was nearing 5,000, with more renunciations expected this year because fees to do so have dropped steeply.

    Wut. Everything else I've read said the fees to expatriate are enormous. Both a percent of net worth and fixed fees.

    anyone have more info on these fees "dropping steeply"?

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Iirc the fee has been lowered from 2.5-4k down to maybe 500 USD.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Did the percent net worth get lowered too?

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  • [+] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)
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    Or if you didn't file 5 years of tax returns - even if you've never lived or earned income in the US.

    This caught an acquaintances of mine who was accidentally born in the US when their mother went into early labor. They found out about both the rule of the land and the exit tax when they were an adult when their application for citizenship in a different country was rejected for already being a dual citizen of the US.

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  • [+] 25 points 6 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Amazing to assume Social Security will still be a thing....

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  • [+] -11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    You may want to give yourselves an escape route before then. Things are likely to get dangerous before midterms. Once 2027 rolls around you may not be able to leave. At least, not legally and with all your stuff.

    I really cannot imagine the Republicans losing power at this point. Not without an ammount of violence that cascades part of the power grid. People have been shouting coup for a year. Even if the dems won there's AIPAC problem and Vance and Thiel waiting to get their dark enlightenment.

    So yeah, run while you can. This is The Fall of Rome

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I want to sell my citizenship and think it is anti-capitalism (read: terrorists, apparently) that we cannot do so. The going rate was set at $1M by POTUS.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Rubio wants to shut down all of the Mexican consulates because of the CIA agent incident. It doesn't even make sense.

    I'm mid-application for moving down there.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Sounds like everyone is happy, America wants to deport them they want to leave.

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  • [+] -27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    Like the rest of the world want's them. So first you do nothing about your dead country, and you immigrate in another country.
    Like WW2 people fleeing Europe, same with USA now.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    My Jewish family fled Europe during the pogroms of Russia.

    Their family that stayed died in the camps. Fuck you.

    The rest of the world has an obligation to accept refuges and use international pressure against other States that commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.

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  • [+] -19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I didn't say anything about Jewish people, I don't understand how I did offend you. Have a nice day!

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Like WW2 people fleeing Europe

    You seriously didn't consider that Jews comprised most of this group? Regardless, blaming refugees for their authoritarian government is super fucked up. You know that more people than live in most European counties voted AGAINST the Trump regime, right?

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  • [+] -10 points 6 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    You could read the article to find out. The link is right there at the top of the page.

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    [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Lock them in! Dont need any usa people infecting the rest of us with their poisonous ideology

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