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[–] 115 points 6 months ago (15 children)

There are so many things you can do with a partner that don’t cost money and will make permanent memories.

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  • [–] 79 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Running though the streets at 3:47 with a big knife and 5 dollar mask from pop up Halloween store

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  • [–] 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Cucking. Gloryhole. Orgy. Swinging.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Or you know, going grocery shopping and making dinner at home.

    It’s still gonna cost $200 but you’ll be set for a few days at least.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah but on the first dates you gotta try to impress a little right, don’t want to come off as too poor or cheap (depending on circumstances, 2 students in exact same situation is different than older working adults, for example)

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    This feels like a capitalistic idea to convince people thay they need to spend money to find a partner or people to be with. Dating can have many forms and you can get to know people in many different places. You don't have to spend a lot of money to talk to people in hobby groups or go take a walk/drink a coffee with someone

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Nah, coffee date. No pressure, easy to hear each other, easy to split bill and easy to leave if it's not going well.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yep coffee date first, dinner date second if the coffee date goes well.

    There are other fun things you can do on a first date that don't cost money too.

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    depends on the date, some are super materialistic, expects one person to pay for everything.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    There are...

    What a stupid thing to think everyone is the same.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    So fyi, not every woman who lives in your city took that NPR survey.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You keep running into the stereotypical "date", which is a dinner and sometimes includes a movie. You actually can do better with just like "hey I've been wanting to try bouldering at this rock climbing gym, want to check it out together?" Or similar. Don't think in terms of dinner dates. Think in terms of activities you would like to do with your significant other long term. My wife and I currently take adult gymnastics classes and almost never go out to dinner.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Well, maybe that's because they are not interested in you, but wouldn't mind free dinner. And maybe they aren't interested in you, because you come off as a bitter misogynistic prick.

    Who wouldn't prefer free dinner over hiking with a potentially murderous stranger?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    1 - you dont know what the word "vast" means, do you?

    2 - "its only getting worse every year" Source???

    3 - you are using social media right now, largely fueling this misconception you are actively complaining about.

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    This article draws all the wrong conclusions from the design of the survey itself. That's the average date expense, for all single people, to include:

    • Rich people who don't mind paying more for dinners out.
    • People who have been dating a long time, on their later dates with someone they're already steadily dating and/or fucking.
    • Other expenses of a date, to include hair and makeup and other styling.

    Digging into one of the surveys discussed in the article shows that the cost of a first date has climbed to $93.

    $93 is more in line with what I'd expect. And yes, that price tag can price a lot of people out of bringing someone they don't know well yet on a formal sit down date.

    I went to look up the menu at the place where my wife and I had our first date, in an expensive city. If we ordered what we ordered that night, except with today's prices, I think we would've spent about $30 on food, $50 on wine, and 30% on tax and tip for a total of about $105. We also split the tab. And that's with someone who I had already met in person in a few places (friends of friends), had already established rapport over the phone, and already knew that we both loved the restaurant we were meeting at.

    Obviously we need more cheap/free third places in the mix. And our society would benefit from better income/wealth equality. But while we live in this current situation, people should be generally be ramping up in closeness before spending real money on dates in places they wouldn't have otherwise gone to. I couldn't imagine spending real money before getting to know someone at least enough to know whether I like them and enjoy being around them.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    You're living in a prison of your own making. I hope you escape one day.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think this guy drives a truck he struggles to afford...

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago*

    the women i meet want me to drive a gas guzzling truck, because it's 'masculine'.

    well, that's me fucked,i drive an ecar I charge of my solar panels, i also have and prefer my ebike

    but to be fair, I don't need to tilt the front of my seat up on my bike to have it mash into my balls for ball maxing

    https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-culture/ballmaxxing-electrifying-addictive-euphoric-transcendental-according-pursuing-bigger-balls

    as theres noting more masculine and ball maxxing then making your own fuel :)

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    You're completely missing their point friend. You think you HAVE to spend $100+ on a date and that's "just reality". You could go on a date for free if you really wanted to. But no, you HAVE to spend $100+ for a date you don't have a choice you NEED to spend $100+ or nobody would ever agree to go on a date.

    We're all living in prisons of our own creation cuz we get an idea in our head and think that's how it HAS to be.

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    I can see the guard has those gates firmly shut and chained. Hoping you can get out some day.

    And fyi, I went on a 3 hour walk in a park with my now partner on our first date. Getting to know someone is the most important part of a date and you can do that for free, if you would only believe that you could. Maybe the people you are trying to date don't want to do things like "go for a walk" or "get to know the other person".

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  • [+] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Sounds like you've got a lot going on, hope you can find a way through it

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah just seems like no matter what I say you're just gonna type paragraphs of doomer shit. Clearly you're in a bad place mentally (since you assumed I was only talking about your physical, material conditions and not your mental state all but confirms it) and you are dead set in your view and nothing will ever change that. Good luck tho!

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    You've conflated what's been true for you with what must be true for everybody. Plenty of people go on cheap dates, you just seem mad it can't be you.

    "Nobody goes on cheap walking dates, at least not proper adults" you have it in your head you cannot go on a cheap date. This is a YOU issue. Jesus man just go back and re-read some of your posts.

    "Women don't want to go on waking dates" plenty of women would be down for that, maybe none that YOU are trying to date. Either that or you've been drowning in man-o-sphere bull shit telling you women only want a tall, tan, rich man or something.

    I'm not uncomfortable with anything you've said, could be projection there my guy.

    Again you talk about owning a home but that's barely tangentially related to going on cheap dates. Again, it's not your physical living conditions that is worrying, it's your current mental state. Which would also negatively affect your ability to get dates.

    Yeah that last part is just true. You and me both actually.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Lol I don't agree with your experiences of women only going on dates if you spend a lot of money on them?

    I'm not the one posting paragraphs about how it's impossible to go on a cheap date. Since you apparently also know what all women want now?

    You keep bringing up random shit too. I'm sorry about your mom but that's not at all related to you thinking no "proper woman" would ever go on a cheap date with anyone. It's all in your head man, I'm not trying to hurt you I'm trying to help set you free. And again, that guard has you locked in TIGHT. Just go back and read through your old comments when you're feeling better, maybe you'll catch something you didn't see the first time.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    A lot more women I meet now are now asking me if I am 'actually straight/gay' now too.

    wot ? do they ask you if you're vegan while you're eating a steak ?

    They all want 'masculine men' and they want to be 'feminine women

    why are we dating and not fucking ? :)

    Article is talking about the dating world, as it is, as of 2026. Not how it used to be, not how it ought to be

    indeed.

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  • [+] -4 points 5 months ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Move, maybe? Do you live in a red state?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Surprised you're running into so many gender-trads in Boston.

    Then again, rent in Boston is crazy; maybe it's not manliness, but that they are looking for breadwinners? Men with beacoup bucks don't clean. You said you drive a practical car, not a status symbol. Dogs with pedigrees are expensive. Etc.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    I'm not going to pretend that I understand everything happening to today's young daters, but what you're describing isn't true in my circles (which skew older and richer, but where the people going on dates are more likely to be divorced and/or have children from prior relationships, but where $200 on a weeknight dinner is not unusual or a financial stretch).

    More importantly, I still stand by my description of how the article mangled the underlying studies. Dating can be expensive, but not everyone who goes on a $200 date in that survey is going on a first date with a stranger, and $93 is probably a better metric to follow to understand what is happening.

    The rest of my comment is just a description of what I believe will both reduce the amount of money spent on first dates and increase the expected value of that date by deferring any decision to spend any money by only going on dates with people you already kinda know and already like. If you don't believe that advice is practical for your current circumstances, I'm sorry to hear that, but I wonder if you can find another way to achieve similar effects.

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    [–] 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    "wHy ArEn'T tHe YoUnGeR gEnErAtIoNs GeTtInG mArRiEd AnD hAvInG cHiLdReN??"

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  • [+] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago*

    nordic nations with lots of subsidies also have kow birthrates

    if you give women choice, (education, careers etc) they mostly choose 0, 1 or 2 kids at most, all of those choices are below replacement. For every woman choosing 0, you need another choosing 5 just to stand still.

    If you take away choice, keep women mostly at home, use religious indoctrination (quiver full) and insist upon a patriarchal society sans birth control you'll raise the birthrate. It's why many conservatives are starting to talk about banning birth control, where once they frowned on teen moms, they're now advocating for it.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    True, but unless you or your partner are against the very idea, most prospective relationships start with dating, then are moving toward marriage, children, or both.

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    [–] 23 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Picnics are free. Especially if you Yogi Bear yourself the food.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I like this idea except it's probably unwise to accept food from a stranger on a first date

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Women tend to want to meet at least initially where there are lots of other people around

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Holy shit. And here I thought that the price of a cup of coffee was less than $10.

    Because that’s what you do on a first date - coffee and chat, either at the coffee house or on a walk near it.

    Spending $$$ on a first date is a great way for any guy to get hosed, and just sets up unrealistic expectations. You don’t do anything expensive until several dates in, once compatibility and mutual interest have been confirmed.

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    Coffee house dates are realistic. Many places are open well into the evening, especially chains. And while privacy isn’t high, neither is the cost.

    And the point of a first date is not to spend money, but to gauge compatibility and interest.

    Any guy that spends big bucks on the first date is setting himself up for failure by putting up a high bar that the woman is loathe to go beneath in the future. He will be caught in the “dancing monkey” trap, forced to implement ever more expensive displays just to stay above that bar.

    By keeping the bar low in the beginning, a man filters for quality and substance and against being treated like an ATM. Those women who are just foodies or who have unrealistic expectations self-select themselves out of contention, leaving only the serious, well-adjusted, pragmatic, and realistic women still at the table.

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