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[–] 28 points 5 months ago (15 children)

This article draws all the wrong conclusions from the design of the survey itself. That's the average date expense, for all single people, to include:

  • Rich people who don't mind paying more for dinners out.
  • People who have been dating a long time, on their later dates with someone they're already steadily dating and/or fucking.
  • Other expenses of a date, to include hair and makeup and other styling.

Digging into one of the surveys discussed in the article shows that the cost of a first date has climbed to $93.

$93 is more in line with what I'd expect. And yes, that price tag can price a lot of people out of bringing someone they don't know well yet on a formal sit down date.

I went to look up the menu at the place where my wife and I had our first date, in an expensive city. If we ordered what we ordered that night, except with today's prices, I think we would've spent about $30 on food, $50 on wine, and 30% on tax and tip for a total of about $105. We also split the tab. And that's with someone who I had already met in person in a few places (friends of friends), had already established rapport over the phone, and already knew that we both loved the restaurant we were meeting at.

Obviously we need more cheap/free third places in the mix. And our society would benefit from better income/wealth equality. But while we live in this current situation, people should be generally be ramping up in closeness before spending real money on dates in places they wouldn't have otherwise gone to. I couldn't imagine spending real money before getting to know someone at least enough to know whether I like them and enjoy being around them.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    You're living in a prison of your own making. I hope you escape one day.

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    I think this guy drives a truck he struggles to afford...

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    the women i meet want me to drive a gas guzzling truck, because it's 'masculine'.

    well, that's me fucked,i drive an ecar I charge of my solar panels, i also have and prefer my ebike

    but to be fair, I don't need to tilt the front of my seat up on my bike to have it mash into my balls for ball maxing

    https://www.foxnews.com/outkick-culture/ballmaxxing-electrifying-addictive-euphoric-transcendental-according-pursuing-bigger-balls

    as theres noting more masculine and ball maxxing then making your own fuel :)

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    You're completely missing their point friend. You think you HAVE to spend $100+ on a date and that's "just reality". You could go on a date for free if you really wanted to. But no, you HAVE to spend $100+ for a date you don't have a choice you NEED to spend $100+ or nobody would ever agree to go on a date.

    We're all living in prisons of our own creation cuz we get an idea in our head and think that's how it HAS to be.

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    I can see the guard has those gates firmly shut and chained. Hoping you can get out some day.

    And fyi, I went on a 3 hour walk in a park with my now partner on our first date. Getting to know someone is the most important part of a date and you can do that for free, if you would only believe that you could. Maybe the people you are trying to date don't want to do things like "go for a walk" or "get to know the other person".

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    Sounds like you've got a lot going on, hope you can find a way through it

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    Yeah just seems like no matter what I say you're just gonna type paragraphs of doomer shit. Clearly you're in a bad place mentally (since you assumed I was only talking about your physical, material conditions and not your mental state all but confirms it) and you are dead set in your view and nothing will ever change that. Good luck tho!

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    You've conflated what's been true for you with what must be true for everybody. Plenty of people go on cheap dates, you just seem mad it can't be you.

    "Nobody goes on cheap walking dates, at least not proper adults" you have it in your head you cannot go on a cheap date. This is a YOU issue. Jesus man just go back and re-read some of your posts.

    "Women don't want to go on waking dates" plenty of women would be down for that, maybe none that YOU are trying to date. Either that or you've been drowning in man-o-sphere bull shit telling you women only want a tall, tan, rich man or something.

    I'm not uncomfortable with anything you've said, could be projection there my guy.

    Again you talk about owning a home but that's barely tangentially related to going on cheap dates. Again, it's not your physical living conditions that is worrying, it's your current mental state. Which would also negatively affect your ability to get dates.

    Yeah that last part is just true. You and me both actually.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Lol I don't agree with your experiences of women only going on dates if you spend a lot of money on them?

    I'm not the one posting paragraphs about how it's impossible to go on a cheap date. Since you apparently also know what all women want now?

    You keep bringing up random shit too. I'm sorry about your mom but that's not at all related to you thinking no "proper woman" would ever go on a cheap date with anyone. It's all in your head man, I'm not trying to hurt you I'm trying to help set you free. And again, that guard has you locked in TIGHT. Just go back and read through your old comments when you're feeling better, maybe you'll catch something you didn't see the first time.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    A lot more women I meet now are now asking me if I am 'actually straight/gay' now too.

    wot ? do they ask you if you're vegan while you're eating a steak ?

    They all want 'masculine men' and they want to be 'feminine women

    why are we dating and not fucking ? :)

    Article is talking about the dating world, as it is, as of 2026. Not how it used to be, not how it ought to be

    indeed.

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    Move, maybe? Do you live in a red state?

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    Surprised you're running into so many gender-trads in Boston.

    Then again, rent in Boston is crazy; maybe it's not manliness, but that they are looking for breadwinners? Men with beacoup bucks don't clean. You said you drive a practical car, not a status symbol. Dogs with pedigrees are expensive. Etc.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    I'm not going to pretend that I understand everything happening to today's young daters, but what you're describing isn't true in my circles (which skew older and richer, but where the people going on dates are more likely to be divorced and/or have children from prior relationships, but where $200 on a weeknight dinner is not unusual or a financial stretch).

    More importantly, I still stand by my description of how the article mangled the underlying studies. Dating can be expensive, but not everyone who goes on a $200 date in that survey is going on a first date with a stranger, and $93 is probably a better metric to follow to understand what is happening.

    The rest of my comment is just a description of what I believe will both reduce the amount of money spent on first dates and increase the expected value of that date by deferring any decision to spend any money by only going on dates with people you already kinda know and already like. If you don't believe that advice is practical for your current circumstances, I'm sorry to hear that, but I wonder if you can find another way to achieve similar effects.

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