I had a palm centro and it was the coolest phone in my highschool. I had a non-phone palm device before that too, as a hand-me-down. It had the writing system for text input which was really cool. I loved those Palm devices.

I don't own any bluetooth headphones, so I haven't tried it. From what I've read, it's fairly basic support and not really the focus of the device.

Not open source unfortunately. People have started reverse engineering the firmware update files though, so you can already flash a slightly modified firmware at least.

The body is what bugs me: I got it for an old-school feel but I found it way too light. And yeah, the buttons are not at all intuitive. I'm overall disappointed

Well, in my experience Android DAPs tend to be so underpowered they can't even run their stock version of Android smoothly.

How is the Bluetooth?

What do you use it with if not with headphone jack nor Bluetooth?

I would argue both points.

First, most phones have at least 20GB, which is a LOT of music storage if you're using 320vbr compression, and if you're an audiophile who absolutely positively must have flac for everything, you're already going to be familiar enough with storage to know what size microSD card to get. Add in a synced dropbox/gdrive/nextcloud/whatever folder, and you don't even have to manually plug it in to transfer files anymore, so space is kind if irrelevant.

Second, most people who are mobile are going to be listening with bluetooth headphones, and those who aren't can still use a USB-C to jack adapter, which are pretty inexpensive and ubiquitous now, have passthrough charging solved, etc. For the audiophiles, there are very good USB-C DACs out now.

I guess I'm just confused about where this device fits into my life. If I'm mobile, it's extra stuff to carry that duplicates functions I already have on me. If I'm home, I have fixed audio equipment that is way more versatile.

Most phones dont have enough storage

And neither does this thing. 8GB is absolutely laughable and then it can't even handle SD cards above 256 GB? That's considerably worse than my cheap, 6 year old phone (64GB internal storage, supports up to 512 GB SD cards and has a headphone jack).

This thing would have to be really cheap, like < $50 cheap to be worthwhile.

For the music collection's size, you could look into navidrome and have your server host your stuff, and your phone will just be streaming it.

But maybe this isnt a solution for everybody

You're entitled to your preferences, but why you gotta be so rude?

Tracks are ordered by creation or modified timestamp iirc. There's a script you can use that will go through your file list and update the timestamps based on filename order so they match.

(Thats the stupidest thing to sort on tho, idk why they did that)

We feel the same. It could be so much better than it is. It's never clear why the order of files is why it is.

I mean, natch, lol. But thank you for letting me know! Point 3 looks interesting.

I didn't know they were on AliExpress, so now I'm definitely after that dark green. Was looking at the black with a red button because I didn't like the light blue or pink amazon had.

I have curated my music for awhile. I still prefer burning discs and listening to those in the car instead of streaming lol.

Synchthing alone, don't need an android involved right? SD card in reader on a computer, but still loading up stuff never wabt to go back to that.

I think you misunderstood. I stream... My own services. I don't pay anyone, I don't have ads.

I just don't want another device, it's a waste of time to have to copy a sliver of my collection over and over.

1GB? That is basically not even a full album.

To you point though: its bullshit that devices like this one I am typing on have taken away the SD card. My steam decks have 1tb cards, why can't my other devices?

Oh and I listen to music and watch my movies on my steam deck streaming to them too. That's this thing, no matter where I am, I have my music.