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[–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Why didn't Valve implement this for the release? All of their hardware releases have been popular, and with the pent-up demand after the gabecube and steam frame delay, the sheer amount of people trying to buy the controller shouldn't have been surprising.

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  • [+] -7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Guess it was a good move on my part to make a 2nd Steam account years ago and accidentally make a purchase with it.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Lmao, triggered much? I got 2 on the first release one for me and the other for my grandkids who used to use my old Steam Controller before it died. Ive probably got more of a right to get and reserve it than you do.

    Also getting angry at people over a botched hardware release is a sure sign you should relook at your priorities in life. Valve already admitted a mistake and they are making improvements so everyone who wants one can get ones, which is literally the best way to fuck scalpers.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Ive probably got more of a right to get and reserve it than you do.

    Holy shit the entitlement is insane. Do you hear yourself? You've already purchased two and plan to get more while other people weren't able to get any. The reservation system is for people in that situation, not your greedy ass to get a third unit.

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  • 30 comments in c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca view that post
    [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    Whooo!!! That’s really good news for me, I was bummed to miss out on the first drop

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    We got the steam social credit score before GTA VI.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    It's crazy that they ran out so fast! I managed to get two controllers in my basket 30 seconds after release but I wasn't able to pay until more than an hour later because Steam was getting hammered. It seems like I kept my place in line tho because my controllers have left the distribution center.

    I hope everyone that wants a controller can get one! I am so excited to finally get my hands on it. I have been waiting for dual sticks with touch pads since 2015 when they released the first one.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Mine has been dispatched today from wave 1.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Finally some requirements before scalpers do their work.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    April 27th 2026 seems like a wrong choice. I'd go for something like 2023 and work up to 2026. A minimum account value should also be a factor.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    Bah, finally. Still mad they didn't do this from the start, but relieved to be in the queue. Damn scalpers ruining everything these days.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Could they not just lock the controller to the purchased account for the first 1 or 2 months? If you want to buy it for someone else you can use the gift option. Of course people could still resell it, but the people who buy the scalped controllers wouldn't be able to use it for two months, and the original account gets flagged as a scalper, and maybe banned if it's against ToS? And if you don't like your controller you can either just return it or wait out the lock-out period. But there are probably issues I'm missing.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Hardware DRM, basically. Hell no.

    I would rather they do what they are doing, limit to 1 unit, and have some history prior.

    I would even be OK with some level of priority by age or played hours, but I understand this is not something people would agree

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  • [+] -6 points 6 months ago

    I rather have a temporary DRM then not have a controller at all because of scalpers. But too each his own. The history stuff doesn't work because the scalpers already have their steam accounts from the steam deck days. Or they will now for the frame or machine. They just buy one or a few of those dumb $1 games, keep it open it for a few days, and voila you got your in good standing account. And they could just create multiple of those. And all that doesn't even matter if the scalpers are just normal steam users anyway.

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  • [+] -16 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    I know it's probably to stop scalpers, but it does seem weird that there are requirements that need to be met in order to even buy one.

    I think the biggest one for me is the "account must be in good standing"

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  • [–] 37 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    why? Hackers keep losing. Seems like a good reason to me.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    On the other hand there there are also games that may erroneously flag accounts for cheating using false positives from other anti cheat systems. Can't remember the exact details but iirc CoD had this issue a few years back and it affected the VAC status of Steam accounts.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I have a 22 year old steam account, played every cod on there, every decent multiplayer shooter that came out the past 22 years, not once did I get a false ban on that account. Cheaters love to lie. Vac has always reverted false vac bans if there was one that happened to people.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Your first problem was still playing Call of Duty in this day and age. After Activision fucked over paying Infinity Ward developers back in 2010, the writing was on the wall. The franchise should have been abandoned be fans and it's only been downhill every release since further proving that.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I think is unfair to say playing one of the best popular game series that has been popular for 20 years is the players fault.

    Those games are total trash now, but that’s not the point.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    I think is unfair to say playing one of the best popular game series that has been popular for 20 years is the players fault.

    Popular, yes. Best, is extremely debatable.

    After 2010, the games dropped off a cliff. Infinity Ward were the ones that brought the series back from death in the first place. Treyarch were always the second tier COD studio, and it showed after half the IW team left to form Respawn Entertainment.

    Although I guess we should sort of be happy that happened since we got Titanfall out of it. That would never have happened otherwise.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    This is 100% to curb scalpers... When the initial rush has cleared, I'm pretty sure they will loosen the restrictions

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    It's not even enough though, if it doesn't even require you to have purchased games before people have multiple accounts.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    From the article:

    • Your account must be in good standing on Steam

    • You must have made a purchase on Steam prior to April 27, 2026

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Most accounts make a purchase, as its a requirement to unlock most of Steam's features and most accounts are in good standing.

    A purchase within the last year would be better, but I think they are not concerned with scalpers. This system makes people have less fear of missing out and gives Valve more numbers of how many they actually need to produce.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    If you know anything about production pipelines, you also know that there's zero chance that the production pipeline can respond in any way to the amount of reservations... Every controller that gets produced in at least the next year has already been ordered by Valve... Any scaling of the production pipeline in response to reservations won't happen for a very long time.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Purchase can be just a 1 cent game, and free games you add to your library might count, that's the definition of an alt account.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Sure, you could just buy a 1 cent game... However the date is in the past. So a scalper would have needed to set up a lot of accounts in advance even before the controller itself was released, and then have purchased something on all those accounts... To me this seems like a very reasonable way to distinguish legitimate players from the scalpers.

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    [–] 81 points 6 months ago (15 children)

    Cool, they've done effectively the same thing they did with the Steam Deck. I think they truly didn't anticipate the volume of people interested in the controller.

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  • [–] 45 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Which is surprising, they should have had the stats based on wishlisting alone.

    They really should have had this system in place from the get-go, I was actually expecting it to work that way.

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  • [–] 50 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I said it somewhere else, but I think Valve actually did factor in wishlist counts. The problem is in the percentage of those that convert to sales. For games, the median conversion rate is 10% to 20% of wishlists converting to sales within the first week. I expect the Steam Controller's conversion rate was much higher.

    Valve may have even tried anticipating this from Deck sales and still failed to account for the Deck conversion rate still being lower due to the greater price.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah I have 500+ games on my wishlist. Just to keep track of specific games. Stuff has been on there for years.

    I do wonder how many Steam Deck owners would also want the controller and what the ratio is. There's how many Steam Deck owners? 3-4 million? Even if 5% of those wanted a controller that's 200k. 25% is almost a million. And then there's the people that only want the controller for their PC/HTPC, others potentially buying for their future Steam Machine...

    I would guestimate 2 million controllers on the conservative side, 6 million on the other end.

    I do wonder if they expected 5 million and demand is over 10 million...or more...would explain the OOS and lack of a reserve system if they thought they'd had enough.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I must turn off the mails for wishlist prices now that you say it

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    In case it works for you, I use IsThereAnyDeal instead of Steam for sale notifications. You can either import your Steam wishlist or make a fresh one on the site, then make a notification system as simple or as complex as you want. I've got my setup to notify me only when my most anticipated games hit new historical lows or when anything else in my wishlist hits 90% off.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I forgot to add it to my wishlist.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    I think they truly didn’t anticipate the volume of people interested in the controller.

    If you're getting the Steam Machine 2.0, you're probably going to get at least one Steam Controller 2.0, since it's the closest thing to an "official" Steam Machine controller, and it's designed to let you do a reasonable job of playing mouse-based games (which Steam has lots of) from the couch (and the Steam Machine is aiming at the living room). The two products kinda go together like peanut butter and jelly.

    But...the Steam Machine 2.0 is deferred, so the people buying a Steam Controller now are buying one to use on a PC, either for use at a desk or some non-Valve-built living-room PC, which I think is probably harder for Valve to predict demand for.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Oh, I didn't think of that. If Valve did something like subtracting Machine wishlists from Controller wishlists to estimate the number of people wanting to buy the Controller to use by itself, that leaves a lot of room for underestimating the overlap. I probably contributed to this too by wishlisting the Machine despite not being sure I actually want it. If you only wishlisted the Controller, I may have taken your spot. Oops. Sorry, guys.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    The Steam Machine will include a Steam Controller.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    You sure? I don't think I remember seeing that.

    goes looking

    https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

    Made for Steam Controller

    Steam Machine comes with a built-in wireless adapter, just for pairing with Steam Controller. (Up to four with a single adapter!) This means you can pair your Steam Controller without its puck, and you can wake your Steam Machine without leaving your couch.

    I mean, they say that it has wireless support for remote power-on for it, but nothing on that page that I see says that the Steam Machine comes with a Steam Controller. They might do some bundle with a discount that includes both, and I could totally believe that, but...

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    I don't exactly know why, but I was 100% positive that the Steam Machine was planned to come bundled with a Steam Controller. Just like how any PlayStation, Xbox, etc. comes with a controller. But no, looking at the official page (as well as an archive), I cannot see any mention that the Steam Controller is bundled.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Maybe they are planning both, standalone and bundle. I was under the impression from the original announcement coverage that a controller would come with it, pretty sure that was said multiple places.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Weird they didn't do this from the start.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    How do you think it would have gone differently if they had done this?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Instead of having people frantically trying to beat robo-scalpers through a system (predictably) crashing through surge of demand, people would get into the queue and scalpers would have had no incentive to exploit FOMO that wouldn't exist. There probably would've still been a tech issues at the start, but it would've smoothed out on it's own instead of having people wonder for a week if they'd be able to even submit an order, hoping they don't miss the next announcement (which I almost did).

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Instead of having people frantically trying to beat robo-scalpers through a system (predictably) crashing through surge of demand to purchase the item, people would be frantically trying to beat robo-scalpers through a system (predictively) crashing through surge of demand to put their name in a queue.

    Have we forgotten that the exact same thing happened with the Steam Deck?

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    Oh thank god, this actually is awesome. I was so frustrated for missing the original launch but this should help!

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    we are happy

    you are sad

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    19:00 CET they sai

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Before release, the only thing people seemed to want to do was complain about the price, and now they're way sold out. Never trust pre-release opinions I guess.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago*

    On eBay, I see two listings from scalpers already up for $230 and $319.

    EDIT: Oh, there are a ton more, most about $210 into the three hundreds. Just only had two come up at the top. Search for "steam controller 2026" and you'll see a bunch.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago

    Cool I’d like mine to ship already. This launch has been rough

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    [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I didn't really want one but I didn't get a Steam Deck and now they're gone and I'm feeling big FOMO.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I did not want one at first. Then when Final Fantasy Tactics remake was announced I decided to grab one. I upgraded my storage as soon as I got it. Hopefully you are able to get one.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    I hope they’ll do this for the Steam Deck as well while supplies are tight

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    I really don’t need one but damn it’s giving me FOMO.

    Don’t worry, I would wait until those who want it more get it first.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Good, I'm glad they're trying to make this easier on people. Shame there's no mention of when a restock might actually happen though.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I'm hoping the amount of users crashes the reservation system. Sorry, I'm salty about not getting one.

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