My take on a new alignment. Curious if others agree with my placements.

Alginement chart. Top is "Believes humans are self-interested," bottom is "Believes humans are altruistic," left is "Seeks well-being for all humans," right is "seeks well-being for humans with merit." Top left includes Left Communists, Classical Marxists, Keynesians, Libertarian Municipalists and Proudhonists. Top right includes Rothbardians, Objectivists, Ricardian Socialists, Marxist-Leninists, and Individual Anarachists. Bottom left includes Anarcha-Feminists, Christian Socialists, Anarcho-Monarchists, Voluntaryists, and Christian Anarchists. Bottom right includes Technocrasists, Fascists, and Philanthrocapitalists.

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[–] 24 points 6 months ago

I think I got brain damage

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    i can't imagine fascists believing so strongly that humans are altruistic, surely fascists generally believe people to be as self-interested as they are?

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

    They expect individuals to sacrifice their self-interest for the nation, and expect leaders to voluntarily do what is in the interest of the nation.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Expect? No, they demand with force. I don't think you know what fascism is.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Sure but they also believe this is in line with human nature. And they trust their leadership to not be self-interested.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

    Then your diagram is a failure from the ground up because it fails to distinguish between espoused theory and theory-in-action.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It's what true believers believe.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    There are only 2 kinds of "true believers" under most governments: Suckers who are suffering under a government, and those who are pretending to be true believers while running that government so they can get away with it.

    You're either spreading fascist propaganda or insanely naive. Neither of those are qualifications suitable for being taken seriously in a discussion of this topic. Good day.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    everyone on the lower rungs of society being obedient, and a fascist directly benefitting from taking control of a country.. are seen as altruism? truly wild!

    personally, i'd prefer an alignment chart that sticks to "altruistic" versus "self-interested", since this shows how skewed it can get when people are convinced that horrible things they're doing are for the greater good 😬

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    Not altruistic in terms of trying to benefit everyone; altruistic in terms of expecting people to unselfishly serve the nation. This is the ideology, not the reality obviously.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    That's not altruism and shouldn't be defined as such. It's nationalism and is ultimately a selfish view.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    That feeling when OP doesn't understand that "Voluntarism" and "Rothbardianism" are both euphemisms for AnarchoCapitalism.

    Or we're just trolling today.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    What the fuck is an anarcho-monarchist? Oxymoron

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    This meme is shit tbh, didn't even blow air out my nose.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    So does the fascist believe people are altruistic and not care?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Sooo... where's the power?

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 6 months ago (1 child)