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[–] 215 points 6 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 69 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Penguin noises intensifies

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  • [–] 128 points 6 months ago (24 children)

    This is a frustration of mine with software. We make all these gains with hardware just to occupy the new capacity with cruft. I just want the same interface from Y2K that runs so fucking fast my eyes can’t keep up with my fingers.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Well on the dim side, AI companies are buying up all of the new hardware. So we either get software that is somewhat efficient or we eventually move to "computers" that are just streaming sticks we use to access a Microsoft® Copilot® 365® Windows® 12® Azure® Cloud Desktop Experience Subscription Service computer.

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  • [–] 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

    I just want the same interface from Y2K that runs so fucking fast my eyes can’t keep up with my fingers.

    This is literally what Linux is always like and it never slows down even after decades. It boots and shuts down in about 3 seconds each. Join us; I spent a lot of time typing a foolproof guide recently. Let me see it actually get used lol!

    I just played a game on Steam earlier tonight with friends; it launched WINE under the hood so invisibly that I couldn't believe I wasn't playing it on Windows. Nearly everything is cross-compatible these years with WINE, Bottles, Proton, Lutron, etc. There is basically no fear. If anything, the software typically performs even better.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    No adobe so no photoshop, no 3dStudio, no MSVC.

    So I have one "windows box" for that.

    The added bonus is it's such a fresh experience to go back to linux every time 😁.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    There are worthy alternatives to photoshop and 3dstudio max. Even if you /really/ need it, they can be run in wine or a vm.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Well not really, I'm "relearning" Krita but there is still some stuff lacking, making it a drudgery to use (fine software though!).

    And there is no real replacement for 3dstudio and it won't run in wine/vm.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm sure I'm probably wrong, but what about Blender?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Blender is fantastic software and a good place to start learning non-parametric modeling, but if you're already used to 3DSMax it's a massive learning curve because of how different the interface is. Like you have to unlearn stuff.

    It's worth the effort IMO but not everyone has the discipline to do it.

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  • [–] 78 points 6 months ago (10 children)
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    I switched when the windows context menu had to ask washington for permission to open. Some days it took 10-20 seconds. Repeatedly.

    Well, it was one of the reasons, now it's all snappy and predictable on my 6 gen intel mint linux.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    I have, but unfortunately have to run Windows.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Sounds like a work computer. Doesn't really count.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, it is a case with proprietary shit thats only available on microslop. Its an endless cycle where we are being forced to consume slop on top of slop. This lock-in is strategic so that users of specialised software have no other choice.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    What are the odds it’s employer mandated spyware to make sure they aren’t automating their mundane tasks. Or finishing their work in the first 2 hours of the morning and running errands/ chores the rest of the day.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    This is actually quite possible. There where cases where this occurred. I would say that this is more so true within the age of AI. Work smart not hard is essentially an oxymoron in some of these companies, as exploitation is what they crave.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Leave windows, embrace linux

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago

    Internet was down at work today, I tried to use the start menu on a coworkers computer to search for an app.

    Got a 'connection timed out' message instead, and had to scroll through the list like a rube.

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  • [–] 43 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I'm in awe of how Microsoft somehow manages to make an OS somehow more dogshit than the last one.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago

    Microsoft isn't the interesting one at this point. I'm more in awe of how the userbase just keeps taking that shit. That's a propaganda victory.

    At some point Microsoft will publish an update that will shoot the user's dog and they will just share debloating scripts. Linux is free only if your time yadda yadda.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    While that is the basic principle of economics, I was more marveling at their trashcan engineering, finding a new way to shit something so awful each iteration that we miss the last dogwater version

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    I dont miss windows at all.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    Windows 10 was fine until they started trying to patch all the ways to avoid using a Microsoft account. Windows 11 is horrendously worse.

    My work laptop, a Surface Laptop 7th gen, runs Windows 11. Adobe Acrobat will grind it to a halt. Fucking how.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    god i hate the constant "LOG INTO AN ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW" with passion. i once had to log into a coworkers teams account and apparently windows decided that's good enough and automatically & without asking linked my entire local windows account with her work microsoft account

    one log in took hours to undo

    learnt my lesson - never log into microsoft through any of their apps, only ever use web based alternatives (and never on your main browser either, as sometimes logging out is just as painful as logging in)

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Adobe Acrobat will grind it to a halt. Fucking how.

    "Today Microsoft and Adobe are announcing further AI integration of their products. This AI will tune software performance in an attempt to counteract the slowing effects of previous rounds of AI integration."

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago* (9 children)

    All this can be fixed in Windows 11. One can neuter it to faster-than-Windows 10.

    …Thing is, if default Windows 11 is so bad, why spend weeks and weeks learning how to mess with it? For the same mental energy, learn partitioning and install Linux, or W10 like OP.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Go to Microcenter and buy 3 USB sticks. Make sure one is big enough for backing up all you home / documents directory. Make sure the others are of good size too, 32GB is more than enough.

    Go home and make a copy of your home directory onto one of the disks. It will take a while.

    Go here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11 And follow one of the instructions on making Windows 11 bootable media with your second disk. Test that it works then set it aside.

    Go to Ventoy's website and download it here: https://www.ventoy.net/en/download.html Follow the instructions and make the third USB stick a Ventoy disk. Ventoy lets you load multiple ISO files on a single disk.

    Go to https://distrowatch.com/ and pick some distros, some operating systems. Download the ISOs and drop them in empty partition on your ventoy disk. Don't forget you may need to change the boot order in your UEFI/BIOS to boot to it,

    Explore and have fun.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I'm not sure how techy @Kewlio250@lemmy.zip is, and Distrowatch can be pretty overwhelming, so here are a couple of recommendations from someone who's tried a bunch of distros:

    • Linux Mint: Very close to Windows 7 in experience, with some modern touch-ups here and there. What I'd recommend for longtime Windows users.
    • Elementary OS: Gives off a lot of macOS vibes for all the right reasons, and while it's not very customizable, a ton of care has been put into the experience. Ideal for someone with basic computer needs that wants something that just works. (The website asks you to donate; if you can't or don't want to, enter $0 as a custom donation amount to get it for free.)
    • Fedora Workstation: Genuinely different experience from Windows and macOS. It reminds me of the experiments in the early '10s in creating a "convergent" interface, but this is stable, functional, and mature. Really shines if you have a touchpad.
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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Ventoy is probably not the best thing to recommend.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    That's somewhat concerning, but without a similar tool as an alternative or a clearly malicious incident I'm probably not going to stop using it any time soon. I only scratched the surface of one of those references anyway, and looks like digging through them to see the discourse and the meta-discourse would take a little while.

    If it's a point of genuine concern however, there's always Rufus or Etcher for writing a single ISO at a time, unless they are blob-dependent too. Or dd haha

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Going back to Windows 10 feels like removing ankle weights you forgot you were wearing.

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Windows 7 was the peak.

    This is not 'things were better when you were fifteen.' I started on Apple fucking II. I remember Windows 95 being new and fancy, and even that 90 MHz 16 MB ass DOS extension of an operating system had better UI and better UX than Windows 10 or 11. 98 was an improvement, NT was a tradeoff, ME was a mistake, XP was a lurching step forward, service packs can burn in hell, Vista doubly so. Windows 7 was the last time the good-bad-good-bad cycle actually worked out. 8 was bad, trying to be a touchscreen OS, and then 8.1 was a band-aid instead of a real fix, and everything since WIndows 10 has been a deliberate disaster. 'We're gonna screenshot your desktop every few seconds because--' Die.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)
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    NT cleaned up the 2 routes windows was taking and recombined them. If they hadn't then the consumer windows would have been a lot worse now than it already is. Dave's Garage/Dave's Attic, the guy who wrote task manager, explained how the consumer windows was worse than a hot mess until they were brought back into the corporate branch.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child)

    This is not ‘things were better when you were fifteen.’

    It absolutely is rose-colored glasses, whether you realize it or not. This entire thread is.

    I think people were just relieved to have a viable upgrade path from XP that wasn't Vista.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I would be using Windows 7 right now if internet security wasn't a thing. I only gave it up in late 2020. There's still features in Linux Mint that don't work the way I want, because I want them to work like they do in Windows 7.

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    [–] 16 points 6 months ago*

    Use Windows 11 at work. Was using 10 at home. Seeing what my future looked like if I went to 10, I installed CachyOS instead. After 4 months of CachyOS, I'm not going back to Windows even if you pay me.

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  • [–] 41 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Windows 10 was never good, it just looks good compared to the radioactive slag heap that is Windows 11.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    tbh the only problem with Windows 10 for me was the telemetry/Forced Edge,which could've been disabled via scripts,as well as lower responsiveness(maybe placebo effect?). but Windows 11, literally some parts of the Operating System use Chromium. Please keep Chromium/Electron/CEF On Desktop apps, i hope other oses wont try to copy this.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Hard disagree. Even though it's initial outing was not the smoothest Windows 10 eventually got there and they made many improvements on Windows 7. So much so that it ran quite well for many many years which is why it was so widely adopted.

    Quite frankly it's my belief that the reason they force implemented Windows 11 was because Windows 10 was running so fucking well that they were seeing zero growth in their OS sales cause no one was needing to upgrade anymore. I myself had Windows 10 running on a machine that was over 15 years old. And it ran quite well.

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  • [–] 53 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Win10 is when telemetry was implemented for the first time. You'd better be off with win8.1 with some custom start menu adjustments or straight back to a heaven of Win7.

    Or, inhales deeply, just install Linux and do not bother with MS crap cause Linux just works and there is some sort of a distro for pretty much anyone's taste and preferences that will serve them as good or even better than win10/11/8.1/7.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    The telemetry all got backported as far as seven and made a mandatory dependency of some security updates, so within a few weeks of 10's launch, you either had telemetry or a machine that wasn't safe to connect to the Internet.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    Linux HDR support is so bad that it makes the entire OS not worth using.

    I was using Debian for 4 years but unfortunately I had to stop using it once I stopped being poor because it just cannot run an OLED as its supposed to.

    HDR is only supported on AMD cards and has abysmal software integration, even on supported content.. Comparatively, it just works on W11, even on titles that don't support it because of AutoHDR.

    I hope it can be resolved soon, but as of rn unfortunately its not there yet.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Lame. Should have gone back to Windows 7.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Broke: Installing Linux

    Woke: Installing an older version of Windows

    Bespoke: Installing the Apple II OS

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (7 children)
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    I would take Windows 8 over 11.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I had a bad experience with windows10 at the start. It had one process, I recall scvhost.exe or something that would eat tons of ram and cpu for no particular reason. I rolled back to win8.1 cause of that and skipped 10 pretty much entirely.

    Not even sure why people claim win10 is much better than win8.1. Start menu was dog shit, yeah. But how often users actually use start menu besides of shutting down PC. All in all, under the hood windows 10 was not so different from win8.

    Windows 7 tho. The best OS, literally.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    OP is wearing rose colored glasses, yes 10 was better but 10 was a turd in a blanket but you could do workarounds to keep that turd covered, 11 just took the blanket away and exposed the turd .. . all the time.

    Like Trump accelerating the transition to renewables and e vehicles across the world with his bumbling incompetence, MS is hastening the transition to Linux from theres, i was there from MS DOS days until early 10.

    They really just need to use the Linux Kernel and do their own "Windows" skin on top, like Tuxedo etal

    i gave up and have been on Linux Mint then LMDE for 4 years now, fucking hell, all i want to do is click the icon on the toolbar and use the app i selected. My gf uses 11 on her laptop.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    No lag with the right-click context menu

    Give it a month of BS software adding itself to the menu. Mine used to take 10 seconds to load if I right clicked on the desktop. Just the run with GPU option took like 1/4 of a second or something absurd. Like WTF nvidia.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    It's not loading (or it'd happen only once), it's calling back home (windows "anti virus") to see if it's secure to add each item to the context menu.

    Give me an anemic E8400 and a compiler and I'll load up your context menu in under 20 milliseconds.

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