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Installed Debian Today (lemmy.world)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/dull_mens_club@lemmy.world
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After years of distro hopping, I had one to many updates which borked some driver & realized what I'm really looking for is my laptop should be boring stable appliance. Incredibly happy with it so far.

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[–] 95 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Hooray for Debian, the dullest of dull operating systems!

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    • [+] 60 points 6 months ago (15 children)
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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    And if I want to use my OS to feel cool? If I want to run programs whose new features I mostly don't per se need but which give me an artificial sense of agency and make me feel less empty? If seeing a wall of updates whose contents I'll rarely bother to inspect gives the little autism gremlin living in my brain an erection? What then, Debian fanboys?

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    sed -i '/ trixie /!d; s/trixie/unstable/g' /etc/apt/sources.list

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Is the integrated AI any good?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    What else can you even do with a computer besides managing files and running programs?

    That said (with tongue in cheek), I went from Ubuntu to Mint and can't see myself starting all over again. I'm not savvy, I don't terminal or at least I never have. I'm just a musician that also plays awkwardly with Blender. An absolute computer casual. But Debian does sound lovely.

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    • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    After doing the same, I also want to say how much I underestimated Gnome. It was in a weird state a decade ago but now it’s so nice.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    I must say, I did go the KDE route. I haven't given gnome a shot in awhile ~ I just recall needing so many gnome extensions. Would you say that's changed?

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago*

    You only "need" extensions if you want them. GNOME by default is its own thing that's pretty different from win11 and kde - everything goes through the overview, things like desktop icons and dash to dock break the intended experience.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I hated gnome, I found KDE much more feature rich and for me at least way more user friendly.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It probably depends on what you want or need from a desktop environment. I use Fedora with Gnome and I quite like it. The one thing I didn't like was that you can't alt-tab between multiple windows of a single application.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    you can't alt-tab between multiple windows of a single application.

    You can. Alt + ~

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    • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    LMDE here. Works very well

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    • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Oooooo I'm so close to trying it but I'm a total tech clown. I'm on the spec step to see if I can dual boot. I only looked at Ubuntu and Mint only because they are for beginners. Where does Debian fall in that list? Note: I'm planning on doing this on my brothers PC which only for gaming. Cuz fuck Bill Gates

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    Debian is fairly straight forward I think, I'd think maybe a half step behind Ubuntu and mint for being easy and accessible, but mint and Ubuntu both have communities that have a reputation of being extremely friendly to new folks just figuring things out

    Just depends on what you need :) like the other reply said, mint debian edition is a great choice built by the mint folks to be very user friendly and with the mint community. Just keep in mind debian gets updates very slowly, so I'd expect mint debian edition to also get slow updates (maybe someone more familiar with it can chime in), which may or may not mater for you. But as a result it has a reputation of being absolutely rock solid (though so does mint. And regular mint is based on ubuntu. All the versions of mint ought to be extremely reliable)

    Personally if you like one of Mint's interfaces (desktop environments) I'd probably just start with regular Mint. There are a lot of good options available though :)

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    People do often site the slow updates, but to be honest that's not been an issue because you can just install the newer version.

    For example, I needed to update Pipewire for my audio out through HDMI to work properly. No issues so far 🤷

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Do you mean like getting packages from the testing repos? I've heard of that but don't know much about it. Though it seems potentially like something best left to somewhat more confident users moreso that folks that just switched

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    yeah, mixing stable and testing is something you've gotta be really careful with.

    Now, running entirely testing, or well, more likely testing+unstable? Way less likely to break. So if you want the Rolling Debian Experience, just upgrade to testing. :3

    -- Frost

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Go with Mint. It will be better set up out of the box for gaming. Also, don't dual boot. It will make it more complicated and scarier. Save any important files to a backup location, and rip off the bandaid by completely ditching Windows. You won't miss it.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Mint is super nice. It installs and just runs and Cinnamon is a lovely desktop environment. I'm an absolute casual who has yet to open the terminal.

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    • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    30 years and running for me. There's some features that might be fun to have but I won't trade being able to run exactly what I want and nothing more for them.

    And it's still one of the biggest and most complete collections of software humankind has seen. Free as in Freedom. With a constitution and a vision. And nothing stops you from adding a container or something if you want something from nix or arch or something.

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    [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Yes brother. Stable is not only for horses. The others can get fucked.

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    [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I landed on fedora. Stable with more frequent updates. If I run a server I usually go with Ubuntu because it has a lot of packages installed already so I don't have dependency issues with whatever I'm installing and I'm too lazy to install a bunch of packages myself.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Fed44 broke browser audio and some other stuff never worked too well. Tried CachyOS for the first time and it’s really nice. Supposedly good for gaming. Installed NVIDIA drivers during the default installation.

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    • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Hell yeah

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    [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Why don't people recommend it more often? I tried a bunch of distros and had various issues, the common thread was that they were all based on debian. So I gave that a go and bam, no issues.

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    [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Debian since sarge (server), welcome!

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    [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Do you still need to mess with PPAs or has that pretty much disappeared at this point?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I don't remember ever having to mess with PPA with Debian. That was all Ubuntu crap, unless I'm mistaken, which happens a lot. I mean, you could add a PPA, but I never saw a reason.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Debian often is several releases behind on package versions, mostly because they test the crap out of everything and try to keep it all as compatible as possible.

    You often need to venture outside of their repos if you want the latest of something.

    The trade off is no surprises, stability is top priority.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I've been using Debian for about 25 years. Sure, stable is pretty slow to update, but I don't know why anyone would use that unless it's some production server. I've never had an issue with outdated packages because testing/unstable is pretty close to any other rolling release.

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    • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Debian, the dullest of dull operating systems!

    how dare you!! Got so many running and that's just what they do. I even found a version 9 we really forgot about ... Still runs flawless. It's boring.

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