The GOP's once sure-fire odds to retain their Senate majority in the midterms are looking bleaker every day, but according to a new report from Politico, some in the party are plotting a "coup" that could save them from a complete wipeout: flipping John Fetterman, the increasingly ostracized Democratic senator. Fetterman was first elected to the Senate from Pennsylvania in 2022, besting the Trump-backed Republican Dr. Mehmet Oz and helping Democrats defy the odds and grow their majority in the chamber. Initially styling himself as a working-class progressive champion, he has since made a major shift away from his own party, voicing support for various initiatives and nominees from President Donald Trump and breaking the Democratic minority on several key votes.

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[–] 147 points 6 months ago (7 children)

This implies Shitterman needs to be flipped.

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  • [–] 58 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    The flip part has to do with who is senate leader, and all the powers that come with it.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    all the powers that come with it

    Arguing over who gets to own the "Send more money to Israel" committee chairmanship

    Let's get real. The power in the Senate isn't with the individual Senators, any more than the power in F-1 is with the drivers.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago*

    Individual Senators do have power when their peers are trying to pass something or prevent something.

    That’s how Senator Lisa Murkowski (R), from Alaska, was able to get her state special concessions negotiated in order to pass the unfavorable OBB bill which was anything but beautiful.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The senate majority leader has a lot of procedural power.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Significantly less than the House Speaker, as a point of comparison. Also, the Majority Leader tends to be the Senator with the largest lifetime fundraising haul. When a Senator (like Cruz or Paul or Lee or Sanders) doesn't need the money to win reelection, they can get out-of-pocket very quickly.

    Individual Committee Chairmen have significant power. And Majority Leader gets to nominate the Chairmen. But the future prospective Chairmen back the Majority Leader in exchange for the nominations. So it's a Chicken-Egg situation, where the real pull comes from electing more Senators to back you, not strong-arming them with procedure once everyone is sworn in.

    One consequence of the Platner primary win in Maine is that he's personally at-odds with Schumer out of the gate. By contrast, both Schumer and Fetterman are nakedly Zionist. Platner is more of a threat to Schumer's future reclamation of Majority Leader than Fetterman, as a result.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    He does if republicans have less than 51...

    Like, that's how we decide which party gets actual leadership positions with power, and which party gets empty suits with no real duties.

    If Fettermann caucus with Dems or Republicans, that really really fucking matters...

    And it's depressing no one understands, like, this should just be shit everyone knows before they graduate highschool....

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    You're right, and I am aware of that. I was just using the opportunity to express disdain for Fetterman. The cynical part of me doesn't mind the omission because regardless of whoever is the leader the Republicans always seem to manage to get what they want these days. Although that's probably just a bias based on my frustrations and fixation on the bad they've managed to do, in no small part because of Perle like Fetterman.

    That is more complex to express than fuck Shitterman though, so I went the lazy route.

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  • [–] 89 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    All it took for him to align with MAGA was brain damage.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    There was a guy I knew back in high school, he was an idiot, and he knew it, he was one of the rare idiots who would actually listen to someone smarter than him if you tried to explain things to him. He leaned fairly conservative to begin with, but when he said some stupid bullshit you could get him to change his mind if you explained why it was stupid.

    At some point I heard that he died, turns out that was exaggerated a bit, but he did get a pretty bad head injury, spent some time in a coma, etc. but he is mostly ok

    But the next time I ran into him I noticed that he's just not as willing to hear things out and change his mind anymore, and I can't help but think that's the brain damage.

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  • [–] 54 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Flip Fetteman? They can have him. Garbage politician that only won his seat because he was against Dr.Oz.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    He put on a pretty good front up until his stroke right before the primary. It's debatable whether what he has become since is who he was all along, but he definitely won for more reasons than merely not being Oz, the carpetbagger.

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  • [–] 48 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It's not flipping. It's making it publicly official.

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  • [–] 36 points 6 months ago

    What's there to flip? He's already voting Republican.

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  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    We badly need:

    1. Term limits

    2. A recall process for all elected officials

    3. To abolish the senate

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Or, just get people to vote the way the GOPs do.

    Look up Jerry Falwell and his Moral Majority. Jerry was a televangelist who grabbed the GOP by the grassroots.

    He used his extensive mailing list to find the small local GOP clubs that decide who is going to be the next sheriff or country clerk. If there'd been twenty people at the last meeting, Jerry's folks would show up with fifty.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    That’s kind of smart. Find elections that are so volatile, you can easily amass a small group to tip the tides. Win that election, and use your newfound influence to snowball the effect into larger and larger wins over time.

    Only problem is that it’s predatory on small town folk who have a working, albeit delicate, political system. It’s using their delicate platform as a stepping stone for self-promotion, denying them a voice on their own platform in the process.

    Only other problem is that it apparently works, if people are fucking doing it.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)
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    Because it is, by design, an undemocratic institution that gives rural voters multiple times as much power as voters who live in more populated areas.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    I think reforms are in need there specifically on gerrymandering but also ranked voting.

    The senate isn't an undemocratic institution that's literally insane to say about something that relies on elections to get into

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It is insane to say an institution where representatives of 10% of the population can thwart the interests of the other 90% (Source) is democratic. Russia has elections, that doesn't make it a functioning democracy.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Russia's elections are known to be a facade like in North Korea. And I do agree America isn't authentic in their elections either.

    But the senate is one of the few spaces we get elections often and specifically for our locality. I don't think the senate as a concept is a problem, I think there are flaws in the execution

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Or we abolish the senate and expand the house to the several thousand representatives it should actually be. Term limits on legislators in a small legislature just makes the party even more powerful because nobody will have name recognition except the party. It also highly encourages working with lobbyists who promise to get you a cushy landing spot after your term. For what most people have an issue with, an age cap with a good retirement would work.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

    35 Senate seats are up for election this year, Fetterman is not one of them. Currently the Senate is 53 Republican, 45 Democratic, 2 Independent.

    I'd LOVE to see BOTH the House and Senate flip, but if you go race by race, most of these are super safe either D or R. These are state wide elections so gerrymandering does not apply.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_Senate_elections

    Interim elections:

    Florida - Ashley Moody Safe Republican (filling Marco Rubio's seat)
    Ohio - Jon Husted Safe Republican (filling JD Vance's seat)

    General elections:

    Alabama - Tommy Tuberville Safe Republican
    Alaska - Dan Sullivan Safe Republican
    Arkansas - Tom Cotton Safe Republican
    Idaho - Jim Risch Safe Republican
    Iowa - Joni Ernst Safe Republican
    Kansas - Roger Marshall Safe Republican
    Kentucky - Mitch McConnell Safe Republican
    Louisiana - Bill Cassidy Safe Republican
    Mississippi - Cindy Hyde-Smith Safe Republican
    Montana - Steve Daines Safe Republican
    Nebraska - Pete Ricketts Safe Republican
    North Carolina - Thom Tillis Safe Republican
    Oklahoma - Alan S. Armstrong Safe Republican
    South Carolina - Lindsey Graham Safe Republican
    South Dakota - Mike Rounds Safe Republican
    Tennesseee - Bill Hagerty Safe Republican
    Texas - John Cornyn Safe Republican
    West Virginia - Shelley Moore Capito Safe Republican
    Wyoming - Cynthia Lummis Safe Republican

    Colorado - Dan Hickenlooper Safe Democratic
    Delaware - Chris Coons Safe Democratic
    Illinois - Dick Durbin Safe Democratic
    Massachusetts - Ed Markey Safe Democratic
    Minnesota - Tina Smith Safe Democratic
    New Hampshire - Jeanne Shaheen Safe Democratic
    New Jersey - Corey Booker Safe Democratic
    New Mexico - Ben Ray Luján Safe Democratic
    Oregon - Jeff Merkley Safe Democratic
    Rhode Island - Jack Reed Safe Democratic
    Virginia - Mark Warner Safe Democratic

    Georgia - Jon Ossoff - Likely Flip D->R
    Maine - Susan Collins - Likely Flip R->D

    Michigan - Gary Peters Democratic Toss Up

    I'd love to see No Kings get out the vote and flip Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Texas.

    That would flip the Senate from 53R:45D:2I to 51D:2I:47R. But realistically, looking at the voting history in those states? Aint never gonna happen.

    Georgia and Maine flip 1:1, and the best case scenario is the Democrats hold Michigan and nothing changes: 53:45:2. Worst case? 54:44:2 and still nothing changes.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    This isn't a normal cycle tho...

    The "fight everywhere" plan is paying off huge, state parties are operating at campaign levels and have been for over a year.

    "Knock on wood" and all that, but the next two midterms are gonna be blood bath, simply be cause some of these seats are seeing their first serious and well funded challenger in decades.

    They're seats neoliberals handed to Republicans to prevent an actual majority of Dems and them having to do anything.

    I'm usually right about this shit, we're gonna see record breaking turnouts and a blue wVe. Everyone will take the wrong lesson from this too.

    The gains are because this is what happens when neoliberals don't have the reigns to the DNC, and that's all it's ever taken.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I'd LOVE for that to happen, but in the Senate I don't believe it will. The HOUSE races will be a bloodbath of epic proportions though!

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, it's a long progress and will take a couple cycles.

    The only way we fuck it up is if a neoliberal wins the presidential primary due to depressed turnout.

    If that happens, they'll likely still win the general,but then they'll hand the party to a neoliberal who will go back to fixing primaries.

    That's why there's already a big push against the DNC by billionaire owned media.

    Like, imagine the type of DNC chair someone like AOC would nominate (officially there's a performative vote).

    The way to get that tho, is getting someone like AOC thru the Dem primary, not around it.

    Ironically enough, it's the plan for actual Marxist-Lenism

    Marxism–Leninism holds that a two-stage communist revolution is needed to replace capitalism. A vanguard party, organized through democratic centralism, would seize power on behalf of the proletariat and establish a one-party communist state. The state would control the means of production, suppress opposition, counter-revolution, and the bourgeoisie, and promote Soviet collectivism, to pave the way for an eventual communist society that would be classless and stateless.[12]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism%E2%80%93Leninism

    We just have to make sure we don't hand the keys to the bus to someone like Stalin at that point in the game...

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    The Party needs a lot of power to keep the capitalists from making a comeback. They will inevitably abuse that to keep their in-party enemies (e.g., Trotskyists) from getting any power. And eventually they will realize that it's hard to get absurdly rich on communist labor alone, so they'll allow capitalism back while maintaining one-party rule and political repression of the masses.

    Source: Russia, China, Vietnam

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    DONT worry! I'm SURE Protecting Pedophiles! Protecting Billionaires! Starting Multiple Wars! Making it IMPOSSIBLE to Afford to Live! Eliminating VA Benefits! Defunding our Troops! Killing American Citizens in the Street! Kidnapping Children at the Request of the Federal Government! will Convince Republican voters to NOT vote Republican!

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Alabama voted in Doug Jones, likely a fluke that we won't be able to repeat, but there is a very thin sliver of hope.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    He wasn't already flipped? This is news... how?

    Fetterman is a big fat phony who hit his head one too many times. Brain damage and MAGA go together like flies on shit.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Flipping Fetterman? The brain damage already did that.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Switching parties is not unheard of and certainly not a coup. Not like he was voting against the GOP much to begin with, so leaving him out of the Dem count won't change much anyway. Just like Manchin and Sinema, they take the DNC money and resources but don't agree with any of the party platform or priorities once the election ends.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    quietly

    Bro, he was on FOX News just last week. The anchorman was just shy of openly fellating him.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Terror for non-white non-Christians, or status quo?

    Idiot.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    So when does it get better? I watched my parents and grandparents vote blue no matter who until they died. I’ve done the same my entire adult life and we continue to sink deeper into fascism. The democrats are where the republicans were 26 years ago. We literally can’t ratchet any further right without a full blown genocide. Even the civil rights leaders who were murdered by our government saw through the charade. We are paying for a genocide in a colony that has universal healthcare and free college and both parties support it. When does it get better what’s the plan here? Both parties are fascist war mongering pedophiles! When does it get better? What’s the plan? because I don’t believe we will see the extreme damage this administration has done reversed without a revolution

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    What, they're not betting it all on cheating this time or something?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Trumps dictatorship dream is predicated on people voting the same way they did last time

    I suspect the GOP are in for the shock of their lives

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    They’re not going to be shocked because they are rigging it in their favor. I think it’s the libs who are going to be shocked this November when there is blatant cheating and no one in power puts up a fuss. It’s not like the Republicans have never stolen an election with the permission of the Democrats before (2000 and 2024 to name two).

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Oh sure but his support has atrophied and he is a toxic brand. They will struggle to win safe states let alone borderline states. These attempts to cheat may well end up angering his supporters even more.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    You are still assuming that he actually has to win anything. He could straight up cancel elections and no one would do anything except huff and puff a bit. The Supreme Court and Congress are both controlled by his people and they would back him all the way, regardless of how illegal it is. He has no concerns about "the people" either. We have shown him how toothless and apathetic we are. And besides that, he has the backing of the Epstein class and all of their money.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    ... implying he doesn't already go along with their bullshit as it is? Cute. Stupid, wrong, but cute.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    https://lemmy.world/post/44104254

    that post identifies that there are a number of politicians who don't reason, think, or debate Netanyahu's "Israel".

    Their explanation for it is kompromat: blackmail.

    Their argument is convincing.

    Please see that Fetterman is described, in there, in a way which does suggest either ideological-possession or kompromat.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    He won the primary?!?!

    WTF PA?!?!?!!!!

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