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[–] 135 points 6 months ago (34 children)

No they didnt. The president is a dog type earthling in DB and Z named King Furry.

https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/King_Furry

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  • [–] [S] 72 points 6 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 59 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Animorphaline

    It was actually drugs that caused the furries in the DB universe. Only Red Ribbon Army stans know

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  • [–] 59 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    His name is actually King Furry? When they said that in abridged I thought they were joking.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Lot of names in Dragonball have little puns behind them. Some survive translation unscathed, some don't. Ka(carrot). Vegeta(ble). Nappa (Cabbage), Raditz (Radish). Bulma comes from Bloomer, Her dads name is Dr. Brief, her mom is Panchy (Panty), and her son is Trunks. Whole undergarments family.

    Then there's the Journey to the West comparisons...

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Just learned recently that pilaf sama (DB season 1) has the character for fried rice on his shirt. So it's a pun on rice for this evil guy somehow.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm assuming the pun has something to do with rice pilaf.

    Rice pilaf is a dish made by toasting rice in fat (like butter or oil) before cooking it in broth with seasonings, which helps to infuse flavor and keep the grains fluffy and separate. It can include various ingredients such as vegetables, nuts, and spices, making it a versatile side dish.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (19 children)

    He reached the ripe old age of 11, so they just decided to wait him out.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    It went the way most things do that leave Dragonball, Toriyama didnt like to draw them.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (17 children)

    He dropped the child nudity, the animals could have been seen as a beastiality thing, so dropped as well. Stuff just also became not acceptable.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (16 children)

    the child nudity

    As someone who's never seen this show (or most other animes).....THE WHAT?? !!!

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Some people don't actually sexualize all nudity.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    In fact, nudity was used to symbolize that Goku was young and innocent. In Japan, a lack of sexual knowledge and urges is seen as a sign of youth and innocence. And there are several scenes in the original Dragon Ball where Goku is clearly confused when he encounters women in various states of undress.

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  • [+] -8 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    But some people DO sexualize child nudity. Thats the problem.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Some people sexualize feet, hair, and even stuff like mailboxes. Everything is sexualized by someone. If we only made media that no one found sexual, media simply couldn't exist.

    Also, being nude is the natural state of a person and shouldn't be sexual.

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  • [+] -13 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Is defending pedophilia REALLY the stance you want to take?

    If some rich asshole buys an island and brings all his rich asshole friends to the island, and they spend their time sexualizing mailboxes? I mean...not my thing, but I'm not angry. I'm not judging them. I'd be a bit confused, but I also wouldn't seek answers.

    And feet? Well, that can go two ways. If the feet are either fake, or attatched to a consenting adult? That's fine. Again, not MY thing, but nobody is being hurt here. If the feet were either severed, or attatched to a non-consenting adult? Then we have a problem.

    But there is no outcome I can fathom where child nudity in media is ok. Sure, not EVERYONE would sexualize it, but some WOULD sexualize it. THATS the problem.

    I see no avenues where someone sexualizing a mailbox leads to rape, or worse, child rape. Because at NO POINT can a child ever consent. All child sex is child rape. So if you know 10% of your audience IS sexualizing your media, and 90% isn't, you have to ask yourself "Is it worth it to leave this in?"

    And this then turns into a case of "this is why we can't have nice things". The 10% ruin it for the 90%. Then you remember the thing being discussed is child nudity, realize it's not a loss at all taking that away. It's not a nice thing you're losing.

    So from that perspective I REALLY have to question why you're so insistant on enabling pedophiles.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    So if you know 10% of your audience IS sexualizing your media, and 90% isn’t, you have to ask yourself “Is it worth it to leave this in?”

    10% of the world is sexualizing you, what happens to you now? The world needs to act—i guess it has to remove... you? Yes... remove you is the solution to pedophilia! Removing you ends pedophilia! Interesting.

    Point is, just because rule34 exists of someone doesn't mean the problem is rule34. What if I add in something that I made for my mom to enjoy and that gives a hard on to some weirdos. Must I now change my art for my mom to enjoy because weirdos get a hard on? These are the questions people ask and they reason differently than you do. You can't accept that for some reason.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    In Japan child nudity is not an uncommon sight in fiction, simply because it's seen as a sign of innocence. It's stopped being as much of a thing in newer works because Japanese Media is nowadays made with US localization in mind because if your shit becomes popular in America, it's like getting a blank check.

    It's actually why in the Japanese Version of Earthbound (Mother 2) Ness is naked in Magicant. (in the US Version he's in his Pajamas)

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  • [–] 76 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Dragon Ball Z Kakarot actually has an explanation.

    There used to be a fad where you took Furry Transformation drugs, it was all the rage when Goku was a kid

    Somehow the Red Ribbon Army was behind the manufacturing of these drugs.

    But the fad died down around Z, and most people went back to being human. Most people, you can still see animal people in the background shots of some of the Z Movies, I wanna say Android 13 and Lord Slug have them

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    "How do you explain creative diversity?"

    "Drugs."

    I'm gonna be honest, I think that's super lame. Not because it's drugs, but because it's a cheap way to explain not having animal people rather than just admit you don't want to draw them anymore. It makes the world more boring.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    How is "i didn't feel like drawing them anymore" less boring?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Because then at least the universe still exists in your imagination without being a shitty retcon cop out.

    Edit: I also want to clarify, I'm not against change or drugs or bodymods, by any means, and I do think the drug idea is actually really cool. BUT - using it as a means to bs your way AS AN AUTHOR out of having any animal people anymore feels really messed up. And also Lazy. It would be one thing if it were a fan theory, which I still feel like it might be, but that it's canon is like ... It just feels so fricking cheap and like "there never were any animal people because it was all just bodymods" like bro fuck you yeah there were, we all saw the animal people and the world was more colorful and wonderous for it.

    If they want to save it, maybe have both: have the majority of people be animal people, they've just gone into hiding, but then there is also a technology in the world that's capable of turning people into animal people and animal people into human people. Like the reason we haven't been seeing animal people is because they've been transformed/hiding/playing as humans.

    Don't take away animal-people authenticity! They exist!

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago

    I juat watched the original dragonball recently. It was weird how the animal people seem completely absent in later series. They add a sort of je ne sais quoi that makes the original series hold up.

    If you ignore the objectification of Bulma who is a teenager, that is. It seemed like every other episode Roshi was trying to be a perv on her.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    What do you think the Red Ribbon Army was doing at the time?

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    Well, that's what you get when you put in power a son of a bitch for a king.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Blame Gen Z.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    🎶 animal people in my soup 🎶

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Launch took them all with her when she disappeared.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    What about Oolong and that lecherous turtle? Also isn’t Krillin canonically a duck?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Krillin is a chestnut monk iirc. Kuririn クリリン is his actual name.

    Like most characters in the series, the name Krillin is a pun. In his case, its Japanese source, Kuririn, is made up of two parts. The first two syllables come from 栗 (kuri), which means "chestnut" in reference to his shaved head (the "chestnut" pun is also carried over to his daughter Marron). The second part of his name comes from 少林 (Shōrin; "Shaolin" in Chinese), as his early character designs were closely modeled on.

    Shaolin monks. Other beliefs are that his name comes from kuri-kuri/kurin-kurin (an onomatopoeia for something cute and round), kuri-kuri shita me (meaning "big round eyes"), or the words kurikuri (which can mean "bald") and rin (a word added to the end of a name to make it sound cute). His English name, meanwhile, seems to be a play on "krill" (both a minuscule species of shrimp-like crustacean and the Swedish term for a small fry of fish) in reference to his diminutive stature.

    From: https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Krillin/Misc

    Which makes me wonder if that isn't his real name, and maybe a nickname given to him by other characters in the show, like from before he first meets Goku in Dragonball. Because other characters have the food or underwear themes of names, yet Krillin's name is fully just making fun of how he looks.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    No. But when brushing my teeth I brush my tongue as well.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    There are still animal people in DBZ and subsequent series. A couple of them are even recurring characters and part of the story. wtf?

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  • [–] 38 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Beerus is a cosmic demigod not native to Earth. Idk if he counts as an "Animal Person" in the same way as Oolong or the Pilaf Gang's Shu. That said, both continue to exist in Z, GT, and Super as minor supporters/antagonists.

    Incidentally, in interviews, Toriyama admits he forgot about the animal people between DB and DBZ for the most part. But mainline characters still show up from time to time.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I always thought the other animal people were just aliens, too. I mean, most of the cast are aliens. Almost all the villains are aliens. There is space travel. For all we know, the main planet of the show is entirely populated with aliens. 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    The hidden genocide?

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