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[–] 23 points 6 months ago

Others in this thread are close to the truth when they say this is a light novel thing more than a manga thing. The reality is that this is a web novel thing, even before these stories become published light novels. I am going to quote an answer I wrote previously about this:

Long, specific titles have always been somewhat of a thing. For example, did you know that the novel we typically refer to as Robinson Crusoe, published in 1719, was originally titled thusly:

"The Life and Strange Surprizing Adventures of Robinson Crusoe, of York, Mariner: Who lived Eight and Twenty Years, all alone in an un-inhabited Island on the Coast of America, near the Mouth of the Great River of Oroonoque; Having been cast on Shore by Shipwreck, wherein all the Men perished but himself. With An Account how he was at last as strangely deliver'd by Pyrates. Written by Himself."

In modern light novels, the long titles come from the ease with which amateur writers can self publish to a website like syosetu. This causes tons and tons of stories within the same genre or content tags to be listed alongside each other. So, having a long, specific title helps your writing stand out by acting as a quick synopsis rather than having a website visitor click through and read the synopsis of hundreds of search results.

A lot of our modern light novels were originally self published as webnovels to these sites and have therefore inherited the long titles that helped them stand out on those sites. I just wish that the titles would be adapted and shortened as well as they transition from webnovel -> light novel -> manga -> anime. Some of them just keep the long title but pick up shorter nicknames since the Japanese language is so prone to portmanteaus (konosuba, danmachi, arifureta, etc.).

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Chainsaw man
    City
    Dr. Stone
    Mao
    Goblin Slayer
    Spy × Family

    Confirmation bias is one hell of a bias.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Gotta admit though, stuff with titles like "That time I got Reincarnated as a Slime" didn't exist in any notable sense back in the day due to LN adaptations not really existing.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    They got a point.

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    [–] 178 points 6 months ago (22 children)

    Show is called trigun
    Look inside
    Protagonist does not have three guns

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  • [–] 64 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    I think it checks out he's got his revolver, arm gun thing, then the beam cannon thing

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Damn I really remember none of Trigun, and it was one of my favorites when it came out. I should do a rewatch now that it’s been… oh god like two decades?

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It's still fun, but it's very 90s

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Ahhh it’ll feel very nostalgic for me then! I grew up on 80s and 90s anime~ I recall the dub’s voice acting being stellar, but maybe it hits differently with how great voice acting has become over the years.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    They did just do a uh reboot? I guess. It’s not the same but it ain’t bad. Some stuff it did better some stuff worse, still suggest the original tho.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I couldn't watch the reboot. I have too much love for the original that I couldn't make it through more than 4 episodes

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Yeah, it for sure is not as good. It’s missing the dramatic tone shift of the first, that made it so iconic. Though the Eriks bit at the start of season 2 I feel was done a lot better than the original, plus some other things were done well. Plus it does go more into angels, wolfwood’s genetic mutation, and more of the characters that were left out from the manga in the 2nd season.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    They did just do a uh reboot?

    I am far from the world's biggest trigun fan, but after an extremely brief search they completely changed the only part of trigun I liked, the intro.

    Did I research this wrong or is that what they did?

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  • [–] 159 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Keeping original posters' credit intact is cool.

    The tweet OP posted, but with the poster's username intact instead of cropped out. Username: chockem smirk @beanytuesday. Date: 7/4/22. Tweet text: I love that every current manga series has a title like "Now Just Hold On A Minute... Is It Inappropriate For Me To Be Dating Two Stepsister Slime Girls At The Exact Same Time!??? while every manga in the 90s was just called something like "Blood Joe"

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  • [–] 60 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    Read somewhere that's because the mangas in the store just show the title at the front. By putting the whole story premise into the title prospective buyers can see at a glance what the book is about without picking it up.

    Give it a little time and books will be intriguing again with a mysterious short title.

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  • [–] 49 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    That's partially true. It's because the web novel that the manga is adapted from used the premise as a title for optimized SEO so that their story can be seen by more readers.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Makes it a massive pain in the ass to find them on watch/read tracking websites, especially when they have those ~ and 《》in the title (or subtitle). As an avid Manga reader, I have started skipping those series because, more often than not, they are just as uncreative as their titles. SEO or not, a good story will be spread by word of mouth. These writers are just screaming they don't have confidence in what they are creating.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Might start a web series called "My journey into becoming a mangaka online but the evil CEO of 《SEO CORP》has stolen my creativity and now I must fight an army of robots!"

    Whatever the hell people would expect from that title, it won't be that.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It's awesome practice. I don't read manga, but do watch the anime adaptations. It gives you exactly what it says on the tin. I love it.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Some can get a short name after some time. Like

    • TenSura: That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime
    • LasDan: Suppose a Kid from the Last Dungeon Boonies Moved to a Starter Town

    And others have a short name followed by a longer one like

    • Re:Zero − Starting Life in Another World
    • KonoSuba: God's Blessing on This Wonderful World!
    • Always a Catch!: How I Punched My Way into Marrying a Prince
    • Bogus Skill "Fruitmaster": About that Time I Became Able to Eat Unlimited Numbers of Skill Fruits (That Kill You)
    • The Strongest Tank's Labyrinth Raids: A Tank with a Rare 9999 Resistance Skill Got Kicked from the Hero's Party
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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I'm just repeating a thing I read elsewhere, but I heard it's not strictly SEO optimization in the classic Google rank sense, it's that the most popular webcomic portal in Japan doesn't include descriptions in its browse page.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    "Poop Gun"

    Wait, so is the gun made of poop? Does it fire poop bullets?

    Then the sequal:

    "Oscillating doormat"

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Or the word avalanche will spread to other media

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    That sounds like the PG version of Chuck Tingle titles.

    Of course with AI it's impossible to tell which covers are real without going to a site with a definitive list, but I confirmed this one

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    Perhaps the Mothman sexiness is too overwhelming? That's ok, you can always go with Not Pounded In The Butt By My Book 'Not Pounded In The Butt By Anything And That's Okay' And That's Okay

    Or maybe you just need things to be a bit more self-referential, so there's always Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Book 'Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Book 'Pounded In The Butt By My Book "Pounded In The Butt By My Own Butt"'"'

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Oh, is this the one that inspired Mickey 17?

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    There is now so much manga and light novel titles that I kinda understand why they do this. It is hard to decide what to even click on, and if I can't even tell what genre it is from the title or cover picture, I'm less likely to check it out

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    OP left out the Adjective Noun Fred naming convention that lasted from the late 70s through the late 90s

    Mobile Suit Gundam

    Irresponsible Captain Tylor

    Pretty (However they translated Senshi this time) Sailor Moon

    Samurai Pizza Cats

    Space Runaway Ideon

    Devil Hunter Yohko

    and on and on and on.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

    Trying to be unique in a largely crowded endeavor like Japanese manga is a very difficult game. Like choosing names for one's creations. So some authors have to resort to using bewildering longer titles if only to stand out, and it gets weirder in very prolific manga subgenres such as a harem romcom.

    I faintly remember about Japanese creatives -- and some businessmen -- trying to find naming inspirations from practically anywhere -- a favorite movie, actor, athlete, an odd quote, a catchy phrase in French or Italian (there is heavy use of "atelier"), etc. -- for which to name their next work, not just manga but Japanese product names and trademarks in general; a girl's fashion brand over there which had taken a "Cecil McBee" as its trademark without the knowledge of the actual musician bearing that name (he was informed of it, got surprised, then tried unsuccessfully to sue in court).

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    I would read the HELL out of Blood Joe!!!

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago*

    My favorite animes from the era remain:

    Samurai Pizza Cats, City Hunter, You're Under Arrest!

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Where can I watch "Blood Joe Dating Two Slime Stepsisters At The Same Time"?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

    I think that's because they are Korean but I could be mistaken

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Hey, give them some slack, they’ve got to stand out among the sea of mediocre titles.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    moore's manga law

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