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[–] 110 points 6 months ago (11 children)

Expecting people to not sabotage the rolling death machines "too high a bar"

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    But Waymo taxis are demonstrably safer than human drivers.

    Maybe you're thinking of Tesla who's significantly worse than human drivers because they ditched LIDAR.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    But Waymo taxis are demonstrably safer than human drivers.

    ... says research paid for by Waymo.

    I know critical thinking skills are in short supply these days, but come on.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I made a previous post about this. Anecdotally, I've seen numerous human drivers hit pedestrians in SF. Number of Waymos hitting humans that I have seen in local news or in person, none.

    They are very very conservative with their driving in SF but can still navigate SFs complex streets (I.e. when a doordash is parallel parked theyre very good at driving around them).

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    That's why you have to standardize the statistics.

    Humans are responsible for more total pedestrian crashes than robo taxis simply because there's more human drivers on the road.

    Although the standardized statistics agree with your anecdotal observations in this case.

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  • [–] 59 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I guess necessary bike safety gear needs to include a brick

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I actually have a small but bright orange hatchet (I spray it to help keep rust off it and also to make it super easy to spot from the other side of my campsite) I keep on my bag, mostly for Camping, but I use the same bag when I'm on my bike.

    I've started keeping it on, and have seemingly had less people giving me shit when I'm biking through town.

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  • [–] 57 points 6 months ago
    [–] 37 points 6 months ago

    So it's a dead end technology then? Got it. Get em off the road.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    no problem, don't expect me to respect driverless taxis then

    I can fuk a car up pretty good, so they'll learn how to "respect" me at least

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Won't succeed here in the Netherlands then

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    Totally out of curiosity as I ask a lot of questions. I’m assuming these also have to be roadworthy. Can they drive with a light out or a damaged or a missing windscreen wiper?

    What kinda damage would take these out of action for small period? Or cost the most in terms of repair?

    Also if one had a ‘I support Palestine action’ sticker on it, would it be considered a car displaying a terrorist message?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    These cars aren't looking through the windscreen. They're covered in sensors and probably use LIDAR system to navigate. They see in the dark and through fog.

    It's fairly obvious where the sensors are located looking at the car. And because these cars are dumb as hell, it takes relatively little to disrupt their ability to tell the difference between say, a person the car has to stop for, and a cardboard cutout of Scott Bacula. Or a traffic cone, as another user mentioned though that particular exploit may have been patched out by now.

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  • [+] 26 points 6 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago

    Dude, expecting fucking HUMAN drivers to respect bike lanes is too high a bar.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    That's a shame. Back to human drivers then.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    AI companies: Our AI is so powerful, it could take over the world if we don't regulate it

    Also AI companies: Bike lanes scary

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    To be fair human drivers don't respect bike lanes either.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Do be evil, an hero will destroy you

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    People parking to drop others off or make deliveries is the most common use of bike lanes by cars/trucks. Why would I expect Waymo to be different? Thanks for saying it out loud, though?

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Drivers don't respect the bike lanes either, in many cases. At least the driver-less cars won't veer into the bike lane on purpose or throw things at bikers, both of which I have had happen to me.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    We need a word for the singularity event when AI becomes more humane than fuckwits.

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  • Personal injury lawyers:

    don’t mind if I do

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    If that's too high a bar, then robotaxis are not viable.

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