no oem is gonna be able to earn the trust framework has tbh

Also, yooo just checked their website - the new Panther Lake mainboards support the old non-Pro Framework Laptop 13 chassis too, so you can still upgrade your old machine! (and the reverse is true too, if you want of use an older CPU on the new chassis)

Their blog as well as the video described the new laptop as the "Macbook Pro for Linux users", with a similarly solid build, battery life, and performance. But of course with repairability and upgradeability as a focus.

Clicking on some of the options on both web stores, a similarly configured Framework Laptop 13 Pro (Intel X7) is quite a bit more expensive than a Macbook Pro (base M5). If you go up to 32GB of RAM and 2TB SSD, the Framework becomes cheaper because of Apple tax for (non-upgradeable!) memory upgrades. But doesn't include import fees (which will be much higher for FW)

I wonder if there will be an equivalent AMD offering ...

Looking at their website, it seems that they will be working with more distros to make sure support is good. Additionally, it's the first device that is "Ubuntu certified"

edit,: Oh, and if you get the pre-built, you can have Ubuntu preinstalled! Not if you get the DIY edition though, interestingly enough. You would think Linux users are more likely to go with the DIY route. (you can also pick no OS preinstalled if you go that route, so I think it's fine)

As long as Asahi does not support the M5 this is not an option. And since it will always be lacking behind due to the need of reverse engineering everything it is not a suitable daily Driver. But it is a cool project nevertheless.

I’m assuming they’re talking about 720p video playback at low brightness to get 20 hours.

On the blog, they say 20 hours is from 4K Netflix streaming. Mighty impressive, that! https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-13-pro-and-highlights-from-the-framework-next-gen-event or https://frame.work/blog/introducing-framework-laptop-13-pro

They say it's slightly longer than a 14" Macbook Pro M5, interesting

Are they, though? I do think it is not right how their public stance is just "we want to be politically neutral". But at the end of the day, when you look at who is actually receiving funding from them now, it looks like they are no longer funding the projects that the community has a problem with: https://frame.work/blog/framework-sponsorships

All the CEO needed to say after funding that fascist was:

Oops, sorry. I didn't check out that developer's history before funding his project. It won't happen again. I promise going forwards that we'll google people's names first before sending them any money.

They didn't have to make a big deal about it, even a simple quickly forgotten post on their personal social media account would have been enough.

People still ask him about it, and he'll talk about anything else.

But he won't give a simple apology.

His silence is deafening.

Better to just go for the EU version of framework without the fascism: https://novacustom.com/

Edit: Changed "All the CEO had to say" to "All the CEO needed to say" to avoid confusion.

They're so committed to funding fascists that they shut down their own discord server because they couldn't handle the complaints

This is just saying they're an Ubuntu vendor now. They ship preconfigured with Ubuntu as an option.

I'm pretty sure they were...

Top right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLPC_XO

The orange handheld on top looks like the Playdate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playdate_(console)