United States President Donald Trump has denied being dragged into war with Iran by Israel as he faces increasing criticism over the conflict, including from segments of his own base.

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[–] 94 points 6 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 59 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Obviously Israel talked him into the war and told him to deny it.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    Worse.

    They talked him into a war and it's obvious to everyone except trump and maybe Joe Biden.

    I think they both legitimately still see Israel as "the good guys", because their brains are mush.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Also they have all the hard copies of the Epstine files and he's just dancing for them to keep them hidden.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    They do, but that's not it.

    He's letting Kushner handle everything with Israel, it all flows thru him like Cheney had everything run thru him with GW.

    Kushner is a zionist, he wants what Bibi wants.

    So instead of America negotiating with Israel, Bibi tells Kushner what he wants, and Kushner frames it as the best and only option to trump, usually with Ivanka greasing the wheels.

    Just like Cheney told GW the Irag war was the only possible option, Kushner says anything Bibi wants is the only possible option.

    I legitimately wouldn't be surprised to find out they've been diverting food from US naval ships to send to Israel at this point.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Good and evil don't play into it, they believe in nothing, only self-interest.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    they believe in nothing, only self-interest.

    The fuck you think "evil" is?

    Edit to clarify:

    "Evil" like exists in media isn't real, it's propaganda from the people in power to convince you they're the good guys and they overcame "evil" so we're better off with them than without.

    It's an excuse to give them too much power. And it's such a good excuse that people in power will manufacture terrible situations to just that "evil" is a natural phenomona on a large scale. And they're never put good effort into any type of peace. They want/need perpetual lie to keep people scared enough they'd turn over all their own wealth and actual security.

    That's the most evil shit in the real weird, and there's so much of it we don't need to worry about boogeymen.

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago

    Trump: Israel didn't talk me into it!

    …soooooo Israel talked him into it.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Translation: Netanyahu talked Trump into it, but Trump was too stupid to know he'd been played.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    In all fairness, "This is false, Trump is lying" is by far the most likely thing when he says anything that makes him look better (or at least less bad).

    IMHO the most likely scenarion is that Trump was played by Netanyahu, later figured it out or was told that he had been played and now is lying about not having been played in the first place.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Why assuming he was played? The action the administration took to make this happen was too extreme to say "he was played"

    The money all the rich made with market manipulation doesn't indicate he was played.

    Everything point at him and his groups to be actively benefiting from this situation.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    He's a psychologically sick guy with a profound Narcisist complex whose constantly harping about how he's great at everything.

    People who believe themselves better than everybody else and hence would never fall for a scam are some of the best marks around for scammers.

    So it seems like a reasonable explanation that he got swindled into doing something which superficially looked like a win - especially in light of the recent similar "win" in Venezuela - but had secondary effects which turned it into a defeat.

    Mind you, I'm not "assuming" jack shit, I'm just putting forward what I think is a likely explanation.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So it was not about alliances? You just started a war unilaterally, because you had a bad day.

    This guy is begging to be impeached.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    No. They manipulated him into it. Trump is rather thick after all and easily sells his love and trust for shiny trinkets.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    "American first" has become "Israel first"

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    He probably has already forgotten that Netanyaho talked him into this.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago

    The man is so simple I almost feel bad for him. Then I remember what he's done.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    “Look people, this incredibly bad, self-destructive, unpopular, and poorly planned operation was all my own creation. Don’t you dare hang any responsibility for this disaster on anyone else but me.”

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    Cool story bro but your fucking lying

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Of course not. Trump has been crazy trying to find some war that can let him cancel this year's US elections since his attempt to phish a civil war failed last year.

    Israel probably talked him into Iran in particular, though.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    They're rigging the elections not canceling them.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Rigging an election you also cancel seems like a bit of a waste of effort.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    Because they don't have to convince him of anything. They just give him his marching orders and he follows like a good boy.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago*

    That's exactly what someone who Israel talked into starting a war would say.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Trump is so easy to manipulate, and he doesn't even realize it.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    He is calling it a war, Donny you dropped some bombs on people and now it's the worst possible shit show it could have been.

    The war with Iran ...pfffh

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It must be exhausting to be Trump. Netanjahu calls you to do X, but then Putin calls you to do the opposite of X, so the Netanjahu calls you again and you do X again and the cycle continues...

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Israel told him to say that, obviously.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    "Trump says" well I don't care.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    No, Israel went "What's wrong McFly? Chicken?" and Trump pressed the red button.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    When has Trump ever realized he's being played?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Israel talked Trump into Iran war confirmed.

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    [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    It's inception, except they didn't need to go into his dreams, they probably only needed to mention it once in passing. "I heard the bestest Presidents go to war with Iran."

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Well now that's news!

    /s

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Mossad Agent Epstein never gave Netanyahu any proof of my pedophile rapes, and all of the Zionist money funding my election to "finish the job" of genocide, helps me understand that everything bibi ever says is always true, and so no bibi didn't force me into war, only demonic Zionist supremacism as the truth, did. The dotard, is incapable of admitting that he failed to see through bibi lies that 5 previous presidents (1 of them him) had enough qualified advisers to not do stupid.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    If if say so, just trust the opposite.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    They didn't talk him into it, they ORDERED him. He's a moron who'll do anything a dictator tells him as long as they word it like he's the most specialist widdle piggy evah.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Trump says "I don't even know anyone named Izrali" .

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    So, what is the reason he invaded without any need?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    So who talked you into it, Putin?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    "Israel? I don't even know where that is!"

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    That doesn't make it better...

    actually, lmao...

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