They will no will no longer throttle mobile internet to unusable speeds after data allowances are exhausted, so it is kind of a "minimum universal connection" via mobile.

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[–] 20 points 7 months ago*

400kbit/s is still kinda shitty

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  • [–] 49 points 7 months ago (19 children)

    IDK, 400kbit/s is pretty close to unusable these days...

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  • [–] 47 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    It's enough for email, chats, banking and other essentials.

    I would say it's not enough to stream a movie, which seems fair to me if you spent all the data you have for the period.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    400kbps would be slow as hell, for all of those use cases. Video would be unusable, but other stuff would still be insanely slow with all the bloat in modern websites and tracking crap in apps.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    400kbps would be slow as hell, for all of those use cases.

    I did those things just fine on my first internet connection, which was 14.4k.

    When I upgraded to 54k, it was blazingly fast.

    Remember we are not talking about modern comfort, we are talking a connection that is out of data. It's okay to be annoyed.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Use an ad-blocker and suddenly it is an ok speed.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I lived for years limited to similar speeds, you are hilariously wrong.

    That's 240p YouTube, most of the time. Sometimes it won't load 240. Most downloads through a browser will fail outright. You can download something, have that download saturate your entire internet and knock you offline. Anything autoplaying is aids. If someone messages you a link with a thumbnail you've just been DoSd, not DDoS because it only takes one person to kick you offline.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    If you're out of data, don't stream video.

    If you're out of data, don't download big files.

    If you're out of data, don't use websites with a lot of data (such as autoplaying videos), without a plugin or something to minimize it.

    If your chat can break your entire 400 k connection just by sending you a link, you should probably look at using some other software. Although of course that's hard, if your friend aren't willing to follow.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    That was my only data, not limited because I ran out. I'm saying how trash the speed is and how little it can do.

    Thumbnails. They can't always be turned off and depending on what it is it can break everything for a good 30 seconds. Both steam and discord can do this.

    The internet in the modern world is just not made to support internet that slow. The reason I even used Reddit and use Lemmy now is other sites took ages to load in the first place, simpler works. Shit I still use bing out of habit because for a very long time it used less bandwidth to load than google, and it was good enough.

    edit: for things that actually matter i guess, work app had significant issues and the training videos i bypassed because the 480p wouldnt load.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    That was my only data, not limited because I ran out. I'm saying how trash the speed is and how little it can do.

    That changes the "good enough" part a lot.

    I know it's trash. But it works. That's great, if you've run out of data and really need to pay a bill. (Possibly internet bill.) It takes patience, but it's possible.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    400kbit/s is surprisingly usable. I'm able to use my podcast app at 1.25x on 256kbit/s so with near double that i'm sure I could use it on my standard 1.6x that I like to use.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    If streaming in 256kbit/s only required 256kbit/s actual connection, your math is correct...in reality it will need higher bandwidth to stream seamlessly at that bitrate.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    I do have similar thing with my plan after consuming all plan data but the speed is 512k. It’s good for text messages, using banking apps, browsing lemmy (world news and subs focuses on text).

    It’s not blazing fast nor slow to hell. 2-10 seconds to perform an action which is acceptable imo.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    Might be low, but it's still access to the internet. Seems like a great move.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    They should do this everywhere, but the speed should be a bit higher. Like if you’re on a cheap unlimited plan and you get deprioritized, it shouldn’t go lower than 5Mbit. The whales paying for priority can still get 50+Mbit or whatever, but they shouldn’t be given 100+ or 200+ so everyone else gets unusable speeds. Adjust the numbers to make it make more sense.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    its enough for watching 480p content and surfing internet

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