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[–] 109 points 7 months ago (6 children)

With this level of knowledge of Irish history, I can only assume that whoever made this is a proud Irish American.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The way I see it, when Ireland became independent, the proportional representation was already envisioned and embedded into the new Irish constitution when other countries, at the time, were pussyfooting on doing the same thing, because their elites benefit from the two party system. Fianna Fail tried to rid of the PR with a referendum in the 1950s, but failed by a razon thin margin. Imagine if ridding PR was successful and we'd be like the US and UK in having a shitshow of politics.

    That said, many post-colonial countries either struggled or failed with upholding democracy and becoming rich, while Ireland had been relatively smooth in achieving both. The country had been lucky in that regard.

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  • [–] 63 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    There’s a few bit missing from Ireland, if we’re honest.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Most egregiously that bit is a settler colonial statelett carved out of Ireland that is still to be reunited. But also some 700 years of violent, sometimes genocidal repression, long spells of apartite conditions, culture erasure, language erasure, and generally not cool behavior.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Also a "few" bit missing from Denmark. The king didn't relinquish actual power until much later, and interfered with Danish politics well into the 20th century. In fact Denmark had a dictatorship in the late 19th century which functioned via the power that the king still had.

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  • [–] 40 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Ireland had a lot of death and fights it was not easy… it never is.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Didn’t Russia have an actual functioning but highly dysfunctional democracy for a few years until the oligarchs chose Putin as the ‘moderate’?

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    Not so fun fact, Switzerland became a “democracy” in 1848, but some parts of the country didnt give women the right to vote until they were forced to in the 1990s. At that point, there were only 9 other countries left in the world where women did not have suffrage

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I feel like given what they went through, the Irish deserved an easy road to democracy.

    Although by this logic, Russia deserves Star Trek socialism by now.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    now do one for the democratic people's republic of the united states of america

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  • [–] [S] 42 points 7 months ago (5 children)
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  • [–] [S] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    "Global War On Terror", the entire fucked post-9/11 state of foreign policy.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    The more I look at it, the less I believe any country is truly democratic, since most elections are popularity contests where people with more money have a much higher chance of being elected. Any place where there are "long running families" within politics, it sure feels like just a crappy veneer of "democracy" over aristocracy.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    in before .ml downvotes

    also needs Putin at the end

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    USSR was arguably more democratic under Lenin (however it's hard to say that given how they became the leaders) than some parts here but Stalin ruined it.

    The problem for the Bolsheviks that required a revolution was that systems designed by the rich are designed to keep them rich.

    A parallel today would be the US. Student debt relief? Courts strike it down. Massive bailouts for the rich? It's their right. Running as a communist in the US, what media is going to be behind you?

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    To be fair to Nappy III, he's surprisingly progressive for the time. He gave plenty of worker's rights during the time when it had to be fought from the bottom up. He was still an imperialist though.

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    Fitting that the person seeking democracy is doing it on a bike.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Ireland still had partition, the civil war, British interfranace during the catastrophe (WWII) and the troubles.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    awfully presumptuous to put ourselves at the end

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    And now every place has to do it again

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I'm a bit rusty but I'm pretty sure canada is up beside ireland

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    Napoleon (again) looks a little too long, it was just 100 days.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    when in the heck was russia a communist dictatorship? what even is this meme

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    During Stalin's time at least: 1922 - 1953. The following premiers might have been less clearly dictators, more like inherited the existing system and mostly kept going with it.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Democracy is woefully overrated and it's praise is largely because the dominant victor of WWIII said it was good so everyone had to believe it was good, but the fact of the matter is that it has only lasted ~300 years and has already deteriorated into tyranny.

    Britain had ~400 years about as good as ol usa

    Rome had at least 1000 years of peace comparable to the USA

    And Egypt probably had ~3000 years+ of genuinely good rule for the people (hard to say it was very different than now)

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 7 months ago

    Democracy is woefully overrated and it’s praise is largely because the dominant victor of WWIII said it was good so everyone had to believe it was good, but the fact of the matter is that it has only lasted ~300 years and has already deteriorated into tyranny.

    Username checks out.

    Britain had ~400 years about as good as ol usa

    ... you do realize that the UK has been a democracy since its inception, right?

    Rome had at least 1000 years of peace comparable to the USA

    Stultus esne?

    Of the Roman Kingdom, Roman Republic, and Roman Empire, only a handful of years, by their own admission, involved peace. See: the Gates of Janus.

    And Egypt probably had ~3000 years+ of genuinely good rule for the people (hard to say it was very different than now)

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    Is there a point here other than bootlicking for monarchy to seem 'edgy', or...?

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