A senior cleric in Iran has issued a fatwa declaring that anyone who threatens Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is "an enemy of God," state media has reported.

Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi was responding to a question about any threats made by U.S. President Donald Trump and the leaders of Israel, including prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

A fatwa is a ruling on how to interpret Islamic law issued by a clerical authority.

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[–] 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So he’s the enemy of god? But maga says he’s the second coming of Jesus and doing the lords work? Same Old Testament thinking too

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  • Revelations 13: 16-17

    And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    Donald Trump: "Enemy of God"

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20g1zvgj4do

    'Anointed by God': The Christians who see Trump as their saviour

    This timeline.

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  • [–] 129 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Got too many 'leaders' in this globe with a Jesus Christ/God Complex. That's what is wrong with this world.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    That and an extreme lack of empathy, which is confusing

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Most organized religions don't cultivate empathy, especially the ones considered Abrahamic. It probably inhibits it.

    It's all about their gods saying "do these things and you won't suffer at my hands." Followers don't get to think about whether something is correct or the right thing to do. They're too busy thinking about if it's going to count as a sin.

    Having lived in Utah for way too long, I have seen this among the Mor[m]ons. They'll do "good works" but it's very impersonal most of the time.

    It's about grinding the maximum blessings with the least amount of effort. That doesn't lend itself to empathy.

    Especially with the whole temple thing. Spend a couple of hours cosplaying as an avatar for a dead person and still get all the blessings as if you helped a living person in a tight spot.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The thing I found out when I was a manager is you will get exactly what you measure. If you measure how long it takes to close tickets your customer service will suffer (that's a stupid thing to measure anyway, but we had a stupid director). If you measure the number of tickets closed then you'll get each step of a process as a ticket. If you measure billable hours you'll get a bunch of time padding.

    So since the religion is measuring the amount of sin and (in some denominations cases) good works performed, that's what you'll get. How many of the big 10 did you stay on the right side of? Did you put in 2 hours at the soup kitchen? Cool, here's your ticket to heaven. It's not measuring how good you are to your fellow humans. And they're pissed if you don't have to follow the same rules they do because you don't believe in the same sins. So they try to force others to live by their dumb ass rules instead of trying to get others to be good people.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    I like your example about foolish management, and you're right in that's what you'll get when you "measure for holiness." Hypocrites and holier-than-thous galore.

    However, and I can only speak from a Christian experience, this is why "works based salvation" is not what is taught by Jesus Himself.

    What you speak of with "How many of these laws did you follow enough to get a ticket to heaven?" is Hollywood theology at best, and not at all Biblical.

    Numerous times He stresses doing good works in secret, and not to show off to others. (If you get attention for it, that's your petty little reward, basically.)

    A righteous life inspires good works naturally, and the Law makes sure we should never forget that none of us are perfect, therefore we are called to forgive others the way we'd wish to be forgiven.

    We are not called to judge others. If you judge others, you'd best be ready to submit to being judged by the same metric. (And will likely be found wanting.)

    I too, am I weary and sick of these religious cults, who want to wear the funniest big hats and stand on the highest podiums to look down their nose at all the lesser-thans. Surely, they've "already gotten their reward", and those who use faith to mislead and abuse others do not know their God, and He will not remember them.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Imagine judging all organized religions using Mormons out of all people as your basis.

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  • Or any sort of American-based religion tbh. Christianity (the rites and added Roman things, not the supposed core of Jesus' teachings) is a mess in itself, but then you have Evangelicals and megachurches and whatever other crazy and distinctively American branches they have over there that I'm not surprised that's their only understanding of religion. Religion is about self-control, everything else is wind.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    A Jesus Christ complex would be refreshing. A leader who would deny earthly pleasures, command their followers to love thy neighbor, feed the hungry, uplift the sick and poor, give long sermons about mercy and forgiving your enemies, and would be seen personally breaking bread with the unhoused and lawyers alike?

    That'd freak everybody out for sure.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Don't forget the flipping tables, beating bankers and money-lenders, and saying that rich people don't go to Heaven.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    and saying that rich people don't go to Heaven.

    Indeed, this is the one the Americhristian cult of "supply-side Jesus" really doesn't like. LOL

    Obtaining significant wealth seems to generally coincide in prioritizing it, at the expense of the love for one's Creator or fellow human being, and ultimately one's own soul.

    beating bankers and money-lenders,

    In the interest of accuracy: He "drove out" bankers and money lenders selling sacrificial animals and such, who turned His Father's house into a disgraceful shrine to money, but He's not recorded directly inflicting violence upon them.

    This is a crucially important detail given Christ's Sermon on the Mount, among other examples, where He stresses forgiving one's enemies:

    Matthew 5:38-4338 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away. Love Your Enemies

    43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 [a]But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Here's a comprehensive list why killing the orange Shitgibbon is a bad idea:
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    Oh please. And what are you gonna do about it? Dare you. Double dog dare you!

    I mean, really lol go ahead

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Trump: Putting the "fat" in "fatwa" since 1946.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Babe wake up, abrahamic religion is fighting again.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Hey. If it happens you won't hear me complain.

    He needs to go. The who how and why doesn't matter so long as he's gone. That's a win for the entire human race.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I was gonna say that it would only be unfortunate due to giving them a reason to attack Iran, but history has shown us that doesn't matter. We'll do that regardless. If we dont have a reason we've been happy to just make one up.

    At this point its really just a matter of not wanting to actually fight America on the battlefield.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Has he created a movement, or has there been a movement that has attracted him? As I see it, it's not just him it's most of the current GOP leadership, Thiel and the Heritage foundation, Citizens United and a few adjacent organizations that need to go before you can go to a somewhat reasonable functioning society in the US. And frankly the way some Democrats react to the New York primary, they also seriously need to clean house.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Happiness is small moments. Little dots of hope in a sea of despair and misery.

    You go to work. Autopilot through the day. Then at lunch or on break you get that sandwich you really love from a nearby shop or your favorite spot. You have that momentary respite before returning to whatever drudgery you're forced to endure to live in this hole. Now expand that to cover everything all the time. Might be a sandwich. Might be a new episode of your favorite show. A hug from your partner or child.

    Tiny moments of joy.

    Doe 174 dying is a tiny moment of joy that a whole lot of people will get a whole lot of joy from. So yeah. It'll be worth it. And I'll applaud it no matter how it happens.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    The problem is the movement he has created. The same is true of many other politicians in other countries.

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  • [+] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Given the backdoors in modern CPUs and routers, that's not something you want in writing on the interweebs. Say, do you know what approaching re-education drones sound like?

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    pfffffff ha ha ha and he deletes his post! Guess he heard an airplane and thought it was the Raytheon GBU-12 Camp Camp refugee tent buster bomb being sent his way!

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    I don’t necessarily vibe with the processes to reach the declaration nor do I reflexively support the orator, but I can’t say I disagree

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    Well, Trump is an insult to anyone with more than one functioning brain cell

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    He is the enemy of literally everyone, so, I guess God is also on that list 😂

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    It's weird when two horrible entities in the world hate each other. Is it popcorn time?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    More like enemy of men, both of youse

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yup, and always has been. Came to this conclusion when I was young and I cannot see it any other way.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Jesus said very specifically to feed, clothe, and house people in need, and that even letting the poor live on your property and eat your food isn't enough to keep you out of hell if you don't actually keep them safe and fed enough. He REALLY insisted, he talked about prisoners rights repeatedly. I've never heard of a single church trying to improve prisoners lives. Not one. Someone did the math and discovered that if every building used for religious worship sponsored two people. Housed two homeless people, there would be no homelessness. That's it. Two people. Now assuming just Christian churches would make those numbers harder, let's go ahead and double that number even though that's impossible because the majority of places of worship are Christian in the US by a lot more than 50%, but let's just pretend it's 4 people a Christian church. That's VERY LITTLE EFFORT that would end all homelessness in America.

    Try and build a halfway house anywhere in the US and what happens? Thousands of people suddenly are motivated to show up to town hall meetings and sign petitions!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Try and build a halfway house anywhere in the US and what happens? Thousands of people suddenly are motivated to show up to town hall meetings and sign petitions!

    "Not in my backyard" is a global phenomenon.

    Then again, so is "it's a halfway house, not a drunk tank -> it's a drunk tank"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This will be fun to watch over the next few years.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nothing is gonna happen. “Terrorists” like killing kids, not actual difficult targets.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    oh look. a nothing-falafel

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Ask Salman Rushdie about that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    not that I wouldn't love this win for religious fundamentalist posturing, it's not going to play out like that for Fruity Tootsie the Orange Teletubby. he's not the same.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Well, now we have a couple million Shi’ite Muslims—some, but not all of which are extremists—believing that they’ll instantly go to heaven if they off him on the planet… which skews the odds a little.

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  • certainly numbers are in favor of it. I just think there's a little more to it than that. Osama B' for instance wasn't born, he was made with American funding to fight communists for decades. and he existed in a time before the current zeitgeist of manufactured consent.

    just sayin, I think it's highly likely the Islam religion will embrace jihad as a more abstract spiritual vibe before they actually follow through on something like that again. like how leftists now do revolution as more of an affectation or how christians do thoughts and prayers to fix injustices in the world. as it was written in the ancient texts "do it or 'no balls'"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I know. But it's a religious thing, so any random dude with a mental illness, other than religion itself, can take Holy Action (tm).

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    perhaps you're right. I'm struggling with the mental justification of allowing myself to think that anyone but Americans can rid ourselves of him. but who knows. maybe it's okay to think that someone else will do it. here's hoping allah's greatest defender is out there somewhere, may he have the most violent brainworms that he needs for the Holy Justice 🙏 or whatever

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    Is this the Muslim equivalent of calling someone the Antichrist?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Great Kreator song

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Oh he's an enemy to far more than just some imaginary friend.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Feels like deja vu to when Bin Laden issues a jihad against the US, but this time it is much more personal - Trump got called out.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    And if you happen to wander into a right-wing maga conversation you hear that Trump has ended was with Iran and he should get a Nobel peace prize for it. I wonder what talking point is right.

    /S

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    he works for the devil into bringing people into his fold, so yes he as an enemy of humans, angels and god.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I didn’t disparage, there was no disparage!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As much as I'd like to see this sadistic shitbag removed from society anyway possible, it would be preferable to see him in jail or let the Big Macs take care of him. If an assassination is tied to Iran, that can't be good for anyone.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They should just have Trump's dumbass UCW event end with a fight between Trump and the Ali Khamenei. Both are demented authoritarian old fools, and it would be funny to have these "tough guys" in a ring barely able to stand up before a punch is even thrown.

    But they're both cowards that make others do violence for them so that'll never happen.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Kind of a Pot meet Kettle deal

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    During the WW II the Allies did not consider assassinating Hitler, because they knew who was fucking everything up. The lunatic cleric should realize Mango Mussolini is weakening the USA.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Now we are talking! Get em!!!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Anyone else planning on dining out in an Iranian restaurant tonight?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Beheading is too good for him.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's unclear how Khamenei will navigate the crisis his regime faces but as his credibility collapses

    Propaganda. How is his credibility collapsing?

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