They signed up for the job knowing what it entails.

Doesn't mean it's fine.
Based on current events, for police it will heavily depend on circumstances.
But what's the beef with firemen?

I give a shit about nurses and doctors and firefighters. We need them. I want them to be taken care of and compensated well.

All cops are bastards, though. The world would be better off without them and I work toward abolition.

Edit: dont commit violence OP

The percentage of people in those jobs who die is small. In fact, there are quite a few deadlier jobs out there. (I want to guess that they're mostly related to resource extraction)

Do you also not give a shit when a driver dies because we know that driving is the deadliest method of transportation per kilometre?

You are not responsible for your feelings, only your actions.

Firefighters don't deserve to die, they don't harm anyone. But I agree the boot of the oppressor isn't sympathetic.

Wrong, no, absolutely not.

Not giving a shit isn't inherently wrong. Can't be because nobody has enough inner resources to give a shit about everything. I don't give a shit about large swathes of the human population by dint of my give-a-shitter being defective from the beginning and having worn down significantly over the years.

Like, I don't want bad to happen to anyone lest it be being hoist by their own petard. You know, fuck around and find out. I have enough shadenfreude in me to appreciate someone fucking their own shit up by being an asshole.

But even "innocent" people getting wiped out by floods or whatever, I just don't have the fucking spoons.

So, even the best cop in the world, 1000% what a cop should be instead of what most of them are, it just ain't a big deal. Soldiers, or any other job where there's danger inherent to it as well. That actually goes for my fellow medical folks too tbh. There's some things where the assumption of risk is there, and when the risk eventually happens, it sucks, but I lack the energy to be upset when there's just so much fuckery in the world that people don't agree to.

Unless there's malice involved in why you don't give a shit, who cares? Hell, even if there is malice, as long as you don't try to make it happen, who cares?

Empathy is not an infinite well. How it gets spent is only partially voluntary. So if there's some segment of the world that just isn't on your concern list, it's fine

Its not a very dangerous job when compared to farming, logging or roofing. I don't even think its in the top 10.

It's not any different than me not giving a shit if you get killed. We all signed up for this continued existence and we're all dying at the end. Best of luck on your run but I'm not going to lose any sleep when you check out.

I dont care about cops, firefighters and the others, yes

Yeah, it is.

All people face risk in one way or another. Some willingly take on risk to help others or for some different reasons.

First off, being a cop isn'y nearly as high risk as (say) logging. Do you shrug and say "oh well, they knew what they were getting into" when a logger dies? Or a nurse?

Some will point out that ACAB, but even if that's true, being a bastard isn't a comprehensive deacription of a person. Humans, even shitty and broken ones, are complex creatures.

Personally, the only people whose deaths I don't mourn (or at least have empathy for) are those rare monsters who are so sadistic and evil that they barely qualify as human.

Empathy for others, without conditions, is one of our most defining and best traits as humans. It's worth cultivating.

You can skip feeling bad if the person deserves it.

Most people working as police, probably every fire fighter, nurse or doctor don't deserve to die, so while you don't have to go out of your way to attend their funeral or anything; the normal reaction is feeling bad for them.

I understand cops have a lot of bad PR right now (mostly in america), but It still kinda sucks they are all getting blanketed in the "deserved it" category (in this thread), because most of them truly are putting up their life to protect yours, so they deserve some gratitude.

Also I always think about that fun fact where "police police police" (etc) is valid english.

Anyways, yes, I feel bad when someone dies protecting us, even if they did "sign up for it." I don't think they should be discounted.

Only good cop...

Cops dying is used as justification for cops to crack down harder. As long as the cop is not evil or corrupt, I don't think them dying helps anyone.

I'd largely say no. As others have said in this thread yes other jobs also have high risk rates but I believe those are all false equivalencies. Cops have a level of power in their profession that is unlike any other job. Every one of them knows exactly what they are getting into and they agree to put your life on the line for the law. If you want to play enforcer then you get to deal with the consequences of that role. On a human level I feel empathy towards any death, I'm not a monster, but no I don't feel any worse for them in contrast to the loss of life in any other first line job.

The risk of death is low, but there's not many jobs where you risk being murdered. Many cops that die have children, and whatever you think of cops, children whose parent is murdered deserve compassion

To some degree I understand. They risk their lives but where im at they get outsized compensation. The sad thing is its because their wages and comp are pretty equivalent to what it was 50 years ago while everyone elses have fallen without unions that have powerful leverage. Then they are known for being pretty right leaning in general. Add to all that the massive shows that get put on with funeral processions and televised masses that go on for hours. That being said they did die. Firefighters I feel a bit worse for as they by and large do not hurt people in their role and do save them. Cops are harder as people they shoot never were given a shot to lead lives with the largess they have and no public displays are put on for their funerals. I don't really want anyone dieing unecessarily but I also want a society that is far more equitable.