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[–] 211 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Back in my day console prices went down with time...

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Same with RAM, HDD space, GPUs, Phones... Shit the whole tech industry really sucks today.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Its because they've already burned through all the good ideas and iterative designs have reached the point of diminishing returns. What's something 2026 tech can do that six-year-old 2020 tech couldn't? With the introduction of AI, a lot of tech has become objectively worse with no replacements in sight.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Consoles were also a lot simpler then. And we were finding lots of ways to reduce cost ( chip count reduction, etc) as technology evolved rapidly

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  • [–] 81 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I know everyone expected prices to go up but $650 for a regular PS5? OOOFFFFF.

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  • [–] 54 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Remember when consoles would get cheaper not more expensive over time!? This thing is five years old at this point.

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  • [–] 28 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The PS2 launched at £299. Got reduced to £199 the week the Xbox came out (and stuck the nails in the coffin just as it was being born) and finished somewhere around £79.

    If only there was a way to know you were in the good old days before you left them.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    This is also from a period of time where manufacturing genuinely got cheaper over time. Die sizes shrunk for the CPUs, so you could make the system smaller with less waste heat. There pretty much haven't been those kinds of revisions for modern consoles

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago

    I guess I'll just have to buy even fewer consoles than I already am.

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  • [–] 58 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Great news for the steam machine. The price difference gets smaller as they raise closing the gap.

    Thanks xbox for leaving the market to allow this.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago

    Xbox hasn’t quite left the market, they’re just slowly sleepwalking down a pier. We’ll see if they wake up before they walk off the end and end up drowning. I’m certainly not holding my breath.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    But we still don't even actually know what the steam machine is going to cost yet, do we? Could be a fucking fortune.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Makes it even worse that Sony keeps exclusives to their console. And reportedly reduced or stopped single player first party games on PC.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (6 children)

    There's nothing left besides Gran Turismo for years now, and I'm not shelling $800 for a GT7 access box.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    The effects of reduced or no further single player games from Sony on PC will be felt in future. Until now Sony was happily porting their games to PC, but after some reports it looks like that will change. So while the recent games are ported over, new games will probably not. So I am worried for the future, not for current available games.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    Sony lost monopoly on Monster Hunter twice in the west now, as they have on top fighting games by Cap and Bamco.

    Spidey series came to a happy end. Everyone is surely tired of Horizon by now. What exclusives does Sony even have nowadays with amazing replayability?

    And for story heavy titles - youtube playthroughs exist as well as blogs and wikis.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    As said, this is about future first party games. The new policy doesn't have immadiate effect on current developed games. The signal I get is, if true, then new Sony first party games will be locked to their console without porting it to PC. Multiplayer games will be an exception to this apparently.

    And for story heavy titles - youtube playthroughs exist as well as blogs and wikis.

    This is for me a non option, regardless of what game it is. I either play it or don't. If the game is a movie rather than a videogame, then I am not interested into it anyway. Watching a playthrough or video on YouTube (or any other service) is absolutely something I would not do (and never done) for this kind of thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Well, Sony better rez Killzone as zoomer Halo or they'll have fuckall like they have past 8 years for the most part.

    I almost got a PS4 when MonHun World was announced, but then Capcom got with the times and said yes to PC - and that solidified my money spending on an upgrade vs new console.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    PS6 is going to be so boutique when that comes out. PS5's cross gen period with the PS6 is going to be even longer than the PS4s with the PS5

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Gaming kids have it rough. 😞

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    My son is pretty lucky as I’m the only dad around with a Steam Deck and a Playstation 5.

    He didn’t even have to ask for these as I’m the one gaming the most.

    I guess none of his friends is gonna get a Steam Deck or a Playstation 5 soon with the prices or the availability of these things..

    The only good part is that maybe people are gonna learn to enjoy what they already have and devs could learn to keep developing games for old hardware.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Yes I remember seeing that Sony is considering waiting until 2029 until PS6 because of the shortages and stuff going on and I'm thinking dude, I'm totally cool with that.

    Gives it more time for them to really do a deep dive on optomization with the current gen and I'm here for it. I think them doing this is a sign that that will happen.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Whats that little kickstand thing in the thumbnail?

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    So that's $899.99. How is console gaming cheaper then PC again?

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Because the equivalent graphics card is about $450, and you still need to buy a CPU, storage, RAM, PSU, and case. And it's only the up-front cost that's cheaper.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Premade desktops with a good enough you can still be found for shit 1200$ / 1000€.

    And the savings from buying on Steam/GoG instead will probably make up the difference.

    And you get a full PC as well

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Uhhh, have you looked at pc prices recently?

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    It is memory prices? Or is it just the “we don’t have any real competition” increase?

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    God, these companies are all so evil and shitty in their own special way.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    PS5 has 16 gigs of GDDR6. I have no idea how it compares to DDR5 price-wise when bought in bulk, but 16 gigs of DDR5 has gone up by like 150 dollars over the last 9 months or so.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    I mean honestly I don't think it's the companies choice to raise the prices on this. When you look at the cost of the materials to make it and the fact that all the other companies have raised their costs unfortunately I think this is a massive side effect to that. I mean I'm still not going to buy it I didn't want to buy it in the first place because it was already incredibly expensive and I'm definitely not buying it. I've been waiting for the price to drop on it and I've been seeing them sitting in Walmart unsold as they are with the current prices.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    lol no thanks, next

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    [–] 6 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Question; is it nowadays cheaper to just get a good gaming PC for long-term? (Including when someone does piracy related stuff).

    Nowadays, I can’t recommend any console except the Steam Deck (OLED). I do always say “just get a good Gaming PC and for handheld the Steam Deck”.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 7 months ago

    Even without getting into piracy territory, yes. You need a subscription for online play on console, and there's a lot of competition among PC stores to keep prices low during sales, including bundles of games. So for perhaps most use cases these days that involve some amount of online play and playing a certain number of games per year, PC ends up cheaper.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Don't go all in with Steam. The people in charge right now are kinda old and the vultures are already circling.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    All companies everywhere have old people. So don't buy into any company!

    Stupid comment

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Well you shouldn't buy into any company that can unilaterally remove access to all your games, but Valve's kinda been a breath of fresh air in terms of how they treat their customers.

    GOG's the alternative if you want to keep your games forever, as they're DRM free so you can just keep the installers. Even if they close down you'll retain access as long as you kept a copy.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    And you can also lookup which games are DRM free on Steam and copy those for a backup.

    Don't get me wrong, I love GOG and own many games and have backups of my own, but if you're that paranoid(that steam will go belly up and everything deleted) then you might as well not buy any games and just pirate everything.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    They still bring up a good point that you don’t necessarily own the games you buy on Steam.

    Steam could “pull an Apple” and remotely delete games from the Steam library for licensing reasons or something similar.

    The thing I do like though is that the hardware is not locked, it’s somewhat repairable meaning they can’t lock us in the Steam ecosystem even if management changes and wants Steam to become the Apple of gaming.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Yeah, every store everywhere has that same conundrum.

    If you really wanted to "own" the game, then pirate it and keep a copy on a NAS somewhere.

    But at that point we're just arguing semantics.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I was already not going to buy a Ps5, but now I'm $100 more not buying one instead!

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