Back in my day console prices went down with time...
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I know everyone expected prices to go up but $650 for a regular PS5? OOOFFFFF.
Remember when consoles would get cheaper not more expensive over time!? This thing is five years old at this point.
The PS2 launched at £299. Got reduced to £199 the week the Xbox came out (and stuck the nails in the coffin just as it was being born) and finished somewhere around £79.
If only there was a way to know you were in the good old days before you left them.
Great news for the steam machine. The price difference gets smaller as they raise closing the gap.
Thanks xbox for leaving the market to allow this.
Xbox had already begun raising prices for the same reason Sony's doing so now.
Xbox hasn’t quite left the market, they’re just slowly sleepwalking down a pier. We’ll see if they wake up before they walk off the end and end up drowning. I’m certainly not holding my breath.
But we still don't even actually know what the steam machine is going to cost yet, do we? Could be a fucking fortune.
Makes it even worse that Sony keeps exclusives to their console. And reportedly reduced or stopped single player first party games on PC.
There's nothing left besides Gran Turismo for years now, and I'm not shelling $800 for a GT7 access box.
The effects of reduced or no further single player games from Sony on PC will be felt in future. Until now Sony was happily porting their games to PC, but after some reports it looks like that will change. So while the recent games are ported over, new games will probably not. So I am worried for the future, not for current available games.
Sony lost monopoly on Monster Hunter twice in the west now, as they have on top fighting games by Cap and Bamco.
Spidey series came to a happy end. Everyone is surely tired of Horizon by now. What exclusives does Sony even have nowadays with amazing replayability?
And for story heavy titles - youtube playthroughs exist as well as blogs and wikis.
As said, this is about future first party games. The new policy doesn't have immadiate effect on current developed games. The signal I get is, if true, then new Sony first party games will be locked to their console without porting it to PC. Multiplayer games will be an exception to this apparently.
And for story heavy titles - youtube playthroughs exist as well as blogs and wikis.
This is for me a non option, regardless of what game it is. I either play it or don't. If the game is a movie rather than a videogame, then I am not interested into it anyway. Watching a playthrough or video on YouTube (or any other service) is absolutely something I would not do (and never done) for this kind of thing.
Well, Sony better rez Killzone as zoomer Halo or they'll have fuckall like they have past 8 years for the most part.
I almost got a PS4 when MonHun World was announced, but then Capcom got with the times and said yes to PC - and that solidified my money spending on an upgrade vs new console.
That was PS4 back then. Now consoles are even more expensive. So for many its not even an option to buy a new console, even if it has exclusives locked to it.
PS6 is going to be so boutique when that comes out. PS5's cross gen period with the PS6 is going to be even longer than the PS4s with the PS5
It's still ongoing. Might as well ask how long the cross gen period between PS4 and PS6 will last at this point.
I read an article the other day saying that Sony is considering waiting until 2029 for the ps6.
I really hope that's true
Gaming kids have it rough. 😞
My son is pretty lucky as I’m the only dad around with a Steam Deck and a Playstation 5.
He didn’t even have to ask for these as I’m the one gaming the most.
I guess none of his friends is gonna get a Steam Deck or a Playstation 5 soon with the prices or the availability of these things..
The only good part is that maybe people are gonna learn to enjoy what they already have and devs could learn to keep developing games for old hardware.
Yes I remember seeing that Sony is considering waiting until 2029 until PS6 because of the shortages and stuff going on and I'm thinking dude, I'm totally cool with that.
Gives it more time for them to really do a deep dive on optomization with the current gen and I'm here for it. I think them doing this is a sign that that will happen.
Whats that little kickstand thing in the thumbnail?
So that's $899.99. How is console gaming cheaper then PC again?
Because the equivalent graphics card is about $450, and you still need to buy a CPU, storage, RAM, PSU, and case. And it's only the up-front cost that's cheaper.
Premade desktops with a good enough you can still be found for shit 1200$ / 1000€.
And the savings from buying on Steam/GoG instead will probably make up the difference.
And you get a full PC as well
Uhhh, have you looked at pc prices recently?
I'm struggling to even find a PC that expensive.

Well for a start that's the PS5 Pro and absolutely nobody is buying that.
That would be like me saying you can't make a gaming PC without a 5090.
It is memory prices? Or is it just the “we don’t have any real competition” increase?
God, these companies are all so evil and shitty in their own special way.
PS5 has 16 gigs of GDDR6. I have no idea how it compares to DDR5 price-wise when bought in bulk, but 16 gigs of DDR5 has gone up by like 150 dollars over the last 9 months or so.
I mean honestly I don't think it's the companies choice to raise the prices on this. When you look at the cost of the materials to make it and the fact that all the other companies have raised their costs unfortunately I think this is a massive side effect to that. I mean I'm still not going to buy it I didn't want to buy it in the first place because it was already incredibly expensive and I'm definitely not buying it. I've been waiting for the price to drop on it and I've been seeing them sitting in Walmart unsold as they are with the current prices.
Question; is it nowadays cheaper to just get a good gaming PC for long-term? (Including when someone does piracy related stuff).
Nowadays, I can’t recommend any console except the Steam Deck (OLED). I do always say “just get a good Gaming PC and for handheld the Steam Deck”.
Even without getting into piracy territory, yes. You need a subscription for online play on console, and there's a lot of competition among PC stores to keep prices low during sales, including bundles of games. So for perhaps most use cases these days that involve some amount of online play and playing a certain number of games per year, PC ends up cheaper.
Don't go all in with Steam. The people in charge right now are kinda old and the vultures are already circling.
All companies everywhere have old people. So don't buy into any company!
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Well you shouldn't buy into any company that can unilaterally remove access to all your games, but Valve's kinda been a breath of fresh air in terms of how they treat their customers.
GOG's the alternative if you want to keep your games forever, as they're DRM free so you can just keep the installers. Even if they close down you'll retain access as long as you kept a copy.
And you can also lookup which games are DRM free on Steam and copy those for a backup.
Don't get me wrong, I love GOG and own many games and have backups of my own, but if you're that paranoid(that steam will go belly up and everything deleted) then you might as well not buy any games and just pirate everything.
They still bring up a good point that you don’t necessarily own the games you buy on Steam.
Steam could “pull an Apple” and remotely delete games from the Steam library for licensing reasons or something similar.
The thing I do like though is that the hardware is not locked, it’s somewhat repairable meaning they can’t lock us in the Steam ecosystem even if management changes and wants Steam to become the Apple of gaming.
that you don’t necessarily own the games you buy on Steam.
That's the case for nearly every storefront. Besides, there's a lot of games on Steam that actually are DRM-free, it's just not advertised.
Yeah, every store everywhere has that same conundrum.
If you really wanted to "own" the game, then pirate it and keep a copy on a NAS somewhere.
But at that point we're just arguing semantics.
I was already not going to buy a Ps5, but now I'm $100 more not buying one instead!
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