I don't think everyone switching to electric cars is the best possible solution. Think of all the waste, there are plenty of older cars that are in running condition.

Although, maybe if there was a market for affordable electric conversions then that would be best.

Comments like this make EVs less attractive. Not the shitty range of EVs, the dipshit attitude of EV owners/fans.

Seriously, go fuck yourself. I’m not trying to buy a new car just because gas all the sudden became less efficient. I’m trying to keep the same vehicle for as long as possible.

You’re either rich, dumb, or don’t pay any bills of your own.

then Ethanol,

Water and C02 taken up by new plant growth, to make new ethanol.

This was Henry Ford's plan to have his first cars run an ethanol, which any farm could make. Then Standard Oil greased palms in Washington and made sure ethanol was illegal to make.

Ethanol> H20 and C02 >corn

That's an insult to vegetables. At least veggies are good for you.

Total BS my 2018 car’s manual says it can only run on E10.

My car was made before that and I want it to keep going as long as possible. It has great gas mileage and very few problems.

Thats nice, if only i could afford a car made after 2010.

whats kinda funny is people put heet in their cars in winter near me.

If you care about greenhouse gasses, then you should be pushing for Zero Ethanol.

Isn't that the reason they still sell ethanol free gas, because it gunks up small engines?

Absolutely not. You need to have an ethanol content sensor and a ECU calibrated to run ethonol. You can make more horse power with ethonol because it burns cooler, and also because you burn more of it (more fuel being sprayed in cylinders acts as a coolant to some extent) however there is a greater consumption (less mpg). Also why u must have sensors and calibrated ECU as you will effectively run real lean on pure ethonol if ur car has no idea what it's burning. On ethonol you will get worse milage, although it's cheaper per gallon so cheaper to run but less range per tank. Modern cars are ok on 10-15% ethonol, but if attracts water into your fuel so gas spoils faster and it gums up as it dries out and will fuck up and clog carbs. It's also bad for old carb gaskets that aren't ethonol safe. This is why u always get that nasty yellow shit clogging the jets in ur lawnmower carbs or bike carbs after it sits all winter. Where I live I try to use ethonol free gas in all my carbed vehicles because ethonol is the devil for carbs (which is why it only got popular with the introduction of fuel injection), and always dodge ethonol if you know the vehicle is going to sit for any more than a couple months.

Cars made after 2010 work well with E15. And many cars handle E85 as well. For E100 specifically, not sure.

what gets me is it says basically at most 15% and you know they are only going to go to 15% if its cheaper and honestly gas was so cheap I kinda wondered if the ethanol was often like 11%. same with the e85 which can be much smaller. combine that with alchol being a useful additive in the winter. I actually would look at the prices and assume the e15 was like 10% less energy (its not that low) and e85 was two thirds or three fourths. I think its closer to 3/4 but that might slightly give it to much. Often the discount was worth it and you are getting higher octane like premium gas.