Welcome to capitalism.

Consume shit that harms you while also harming poor workers and the environment

Yeah it's wild to me that the ban wasn't a blanket "no product may be sold containing both nicotine in psychoactive doses and pleasant flavorings other than menthol or those found naturally in tobacco or intended to recreate the flavor of tobacco may be sold". Like they could've killed those gross flavored swishers that exist solely for making blunts while they were at it.

Like, I don't mind a "buy a flavor bottle and it has room for you to mix in a bottle of one of the various concentrations of unflavored nicotine sold right next to it" situation, but that level of inconvenience is good. It always forces you to choose your dose and means that when kids get ahold of the stuff it's easier for them to get ahold of the nonaddictive version. What we have now is a bunch of e waste that also ensures that there's a lot of access to nicotine for children.

I ain't in favor of vice policing. You want to vape, go for it. You'd find a way regardless. But we can make the more environmentally destructive ways to do it the hardest and most expensive.

I remember reading somewhere that vaping is more addictive than smoking. Sure it is not as bad as smoking health wise but the bar is set extremely low.

Replacing a cig with something that has no immediate downsides and is always available. Hmm

Using it to quit smoking is a good idea

Not really. You are just exchanging one addictive habit for another. Tobacco companies have been selling vapes as safe alternatives to smoking driven by social media bots and MD shills, but it's a big fucking lie.

Heating glycerol to make vapor breaks glycerol, a safe compound into DHA dihydroacetone, which causes DNA damage which can trigger cancer in lung.

But that's just DHA. We have no idea and have no testing or regulation of what goes into vapes coming out of Chinese chemical plants. No one is looking at this.

People have been quitting smoking for a lot longer than capes existed. Vaping is not safe.

lol the vapes have higher nicotine content and are more consumable. Your smoking habit will just double.

Actually the stats say that only a fraction of people quit, but instead increase the nicotine content.

I was under the impression that there are metal flakes in the flavors that absolutely wrecked your lungs. More so than regular cigarettes, was my understanding.

Really? It didn't make you feel better either?

When I got rid of cigarettes and started vaping, the differences were noticeable within a week or two, and they were astronomical. No more couching, no more headaches, less difficulty breathing, more energy, no more hoarse throat. Food tasted better too!

Now, I know, this is not to say that vaping is healthy, but it does seem to suggest that it is at the very least healthier (or less unhealthy, if you want) than smoking cigarettes, unless feeling much better and getting rid of pain is a sign of worse health? In addition my clothes didn't stink anymore and vaping is way cheaper too.

Admittedly it took me almost 3 years, but I eventually got my nicotine content down to zero.

That wasn't big tobacco, actually. Big T fought against the FDA on it.

The reason the FDA went so hard on it is because states had already spent their expected revenue from tobacco taxes and vaping cut into that heavily.

Honesty I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing people with major health issues because of vaping. Vaping gives the illusion of being clean but in reality the vapors are fully of all sorts of nasty chemicals.

I'd rather keep my teeth

But I didn't smoke!

Refillable these days have become the vaping equivalent of the self roll and pipe smoking. It didn't used to be like that. That said these days I mostly just see people smoking a cig or a joint if they're smoking in public

You sure it wasn't the Kia Hamsters?